STM Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Just now, Elliottman said: He didn’t confirm it but said they had discussions regarding his future. Assume it would have been on the condition someone pays the value and we get a replacement. Neither of those things have happened. If Eddie had said "yeah i said he could leave" that would be a bombshell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBartoon Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 The key takeaway for me was his comment about bringing someone in to replace Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Elliottman said: He didn’t confirm it but said they had discussions regarding his future. Assume it would have been on the condition someone pays the value and we get a replacement. Neither of those things have happened. Probably also assurance a new contract is there to reflect his importance if he wants to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Lee Ryder asking if Isak asked to leave before the end of last season and Eddie saying they had conversations about it. Might explain his half arsed displays in last 2 games which were crucial (in fact I recall he was 'injured' away to Arsenal second last game?). What a prick if he did indeed down tools in such an important time would have cost us champions league if Villa had won at old Trafford 😡 There were loads of time during games after cup final where we said on here Isak has been total shit and saying he has to be injured etc. The reality is that Isak might have checked out, unforgivable if true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 2 minutes ago, Elliottman said: He didn’t confirm it but said they had discussions regarding his future. Assume it would have been on the condition someone pays the value and we get a replacement. Neither of those things have happened. the reporter asked him a closed or yes/no question and i think he reluctantly answered yes he was made aware Isak’s desire to leave around end of season (if not even earlier). He was put to the spot and the directness of that question made it hard to dodge or navigate around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 (edited) Seems Liverpool fans truly realise now that signing Etikite was the shut up shop moment for us. I doubt any of them realised we were close to getting him BEFORE Isak 3 years ago. Our last attempt was Sesko. You cant say to Isak we didn't try to replace him... we have. And its not worked out..now that all the top clubs have their striker situations sorted, its more than likely he gets sold in Jan or next Summer after a bumper contract and release clause and we get our new striker next year. I see Bayern calling/Barca/RM next season. And we try to get the next up and coming talent. But we need to be ON IT. I dont think anyone begrudges him a move to a top top club with astronomical wages - but it has to suit us. And this summer, it does not. It leaves us short. He should understand that. Edited August 22, 2025 by Lish007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Where are people watching this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Just now, STM said: Where are people watching this? The app Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Alex Crook on TalkSport (I know) this morning said he thinks that Isak to Liverpool won't happen now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 22 minutes ago, ianbeany said: Isak wins that every time Loses. And that statement was him blinking first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 People need to stop assuming he was downing tools, guy was ragged as the 2nd half of season went on. Why we are trying to pursue an established talent for the 2nd striker spot. From connecting the dots as best as you can I probably see it as: Isak informed Howe he's open to leaving this summer and giving someone he respects an early heads up so it doesn't disrupt (lol) plans too much and it's not a shock when bid comes (likely as his agent has said Liverpool and Arsenal are both in the market for a top end striker) We then knowing a bid could come in for Isak, look to prioritise a more top end striker in case that does happen, so move for Pedro missed out. Then move for Etitike, miss out to Liverpool. This then is when Isak agent comes into the play, likely pissed that Liverpool have moved for Etitike first and not Isak (with Arsenal going elsewhere) Liverpool make a play, we reject, all kicks off. We meantime now are looking at two strikers, one as a Wilson replacement in case Isak stays, but also a top end one in case we have to sell Isak. Howe and Isak talking, things all good between them and aim to keep it behind closes doors. Miss out on Sesko, Wissa ongoing. Isak agent makes a play that promises were broken (no promises were made), played out now in public. Howe / club / players want Isak to stay, door firmly open, and unless things suddenly fall into place over next 72 hours (we have two strikers lined up, Liverpool offer big for Isak), he stays and he's reintegrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 It looks messy on paper but it's really not, there's a set of requirements for us to allow Isak to go that all need to be met and we've not met one of them, in fact you could say we're on -1 due to the inability to replace Wilson yet. I think Howe is inferring that the conclusion is Isak will be told in no uncertain terms that he's going nowhere, there was a remote chance it could happen if those conditions were met but now its too late, we've exhausted our options and he'll have to stay, now its up to him to reintegrate himself into the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Just watched the bit where he said 'Coming to an end soon', and in the context of the question asked, it doesn't come across as bad as Ryder makes it seem. He could almost be alluding to the fact the window shuts soon, so it'll be sorted either way by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Elma said: Alex Crook on TalkSport (I know) this morning said he thinks that Isak to Liverpool won't happen now. I think most on this board realise that's a strong possibility, pity Isak and his agent didn't think of this outcome, their position has considerably weakened, tough shit, how sad, nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 16 minutes ago, JT24 said: Sickener @LFEE I’m still Eddie’s No.1… you’ll look back over the window when it’s closed and which journos said what and when and realise I was the outlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: I’m still Eddie’s No.1… you’ll look back over the window when it’s closed and which journos said what and when and realise I was the outlier I have to begrudgingly agree here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 9 minutes ago, Sibierski said: People need to stop assuming he was downing tools, guy was ragged as the 2nd half of season went on. Why we are trying to pursue an established talent for the 2nd striker spot. From connecting the dots as best as you can I probably see it as: Isak informed Howe he's open to leaving this summer and giving someone he respects an early heads up so it doesn't disrupt (lol) plans too much and it's not a shock when bid comes (likely as his agent has said Liverpool and Arsenal are both in the market for a top end striker) We then knowing a bid could come in for Isak, look to prioritise a more top end striker in case that does happen, so move for Pedro missed out. Then move for Etitike, miss out to Liverpool. This then is when Isak agent comes into the play, likely pissed that Liverpool have moved for Etitike first and not Isak (with Arsenal going elsewhere) Liverpool make a play, we reject, all kicks off. We meantime now are looking at two strikers, one as a Wilson replacement in case Isak stays, but also a top end one in case we have to sell Isak. Howe and Isak talking, things all good between them and aim to keep it behind closes doors. Miss out on Sesko, Wissa ongoing. Isak agent makes a play that promises were broken (no promises were made), played out now in public. Howe / club / players want Isak to stay, door firmly open, and unless things suddenly fall into place over next 72 hours (we have two strikers lined up, Liverpool offer big for Isak), he stays and he's reintegrated. Perfect summary. As always its all about joining the dots intelligently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Get over your huff, get a couple of games under your belt with Sweden, listen to Krafth & Elanga while you're there, get back and ready for the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 20 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Lee Ryder asking if Isak asked to leave before the end of last season and Eddie saying they had conversations about it. Might explain his half arsed displays in last 2 games which were crucial (in fact I recall he was 'injured' away to Arsenal second last game?). What a prick if he did indeed down tools in such an important time would have cost us champions league if Villa had won at old Trafford 😡 There were loads of time during games after cup final where we said on here Isak has been total shit and saying he has to be injured etc. The reality is that Isak might have checked out, unforgivable if true I mean is this even up for debate at this point? He bottled Anfield and he bottle the Emirates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 I for one will be honoured to see him go to Barcelona next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Carraghers article is the best I’ve read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 The best answer Eddie gave: "Do you think Alex has been badly advised?" "Thats not for me to comment on, its for Alex to reflect upon". Thats a genius at work right there. Absolutely beautiful stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 2 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: I for one will be honoured to see him go to Barcelona next year. Who cares where he goes so long as it's abroad, the valuation is met and we have a replacement. I have zero interest in anything he does beyond those conditions being met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 4 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Carraghers article is the best I’ve read Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 22, 2025 Share Posted August 22, 2025 Just seen a bit where Howe confirmed there were discussions with Isak 'before the end of the season' about his future. He seemed to nod/confirm Isak stated his intention to leave then, before correcting to 'discussions were held, but will remain private'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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