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6 minutes ago, BGRM said:

It's just mad. Footballers like Isak (and to some extent Wissa) should be role models for young boys and girls. What fucking message does this all send out to them? Throw your toys out of the pram, take a hissy fit and you will get your wishes. It's just disgusting really. 

 

 

 

To be fair wissa is on pennies he is pushing thirty this will be his last chance for good money and to play at the highest level. Isak was on about three times the amount wissa is making. 

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23 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

No but we won’t.  We’ll make £100m/105m in PSR headroom available to us over 3 years. That will be taken up entirely by Nick W and the second striker. Nick W will cost £20m per season.  The second guy about £15m per season if they cost £50-60m. Thats all the PSR headroom gone over 3 years. 
 

We don’t have an easy £125m to sell next season so we can’t spend it all in one PSR season.  We won’t have the funds to pay for years 2 and 3.  

We would have been signing a striker whether we sold Isak or not. Or at least tried to. So it does add headroom.

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11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Isak was amortised for 6 years at 60m. He played 3 season so has a book value of £30m or so.  Wages at about £5m per year.  
 

So the PSR headroom for a £130m sale is about £95/100m.  
 

Nick W signed for £70m and can be amortised over 5 years. £14m per year. Then let’s say £6m in wages for such a fee. That’s £20m per year and £60m over the next 3 years.  JSL/Wissa for £55m over 5 years = £11m per year and let’s say £4m in wages. £15m per year. £45m over the next 3. 
 

 

That’s all the Isak PSR headroom spent. 
 

Everything else aye we could sign anyway. 
 

We don’t have a large sales funnel like the cartel clubs.  I don’t see an easy £130m we can sell every year like they can. 

 

You've missed that we're also saving on isaks amortisation and wages if he's not here, so JSL/Wissa take that on over 3 years, giving us another £15m a year in headroom

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1 minute ago, oldtype said:

 

They are the rules that we have to operate under and it makes no sense to pretend that they don’t exist.

 

You know damn well that PSR has filled up this forum for ad infinitum, so don't peddle this bullshit that I am denying that it exists. FFS you are utterly tedious.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, NUFC_Chris said:

We needed him gone but I feel allowing the move rewards both Liverpool and Isak for the underhand way they’ve gone about it. It leaves a bitter taste, and it will not be forgotten.

 

It's bigger than that for me - a sorry indictment of the structure of football these days which preserves and protects the marketing power and pull of cartel/franchise clubs. 

 

Ourselves, Villa, Forest and Palace have no hope of competing with them.

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This isn’t really true. 
 

We could sign 5 £50m players and that would be fine for 1 season.  The following season we would have PSR costs of about £70-£90m to fund again.  The Isak money would be gone.  
 

One off sales aren’t that great in any shape. Unless that sale is so great it can fund multiple signings over multiple years. You need recurring sales revenue. 

The even crazier way that the who FfP/PSR works alongside squad ratio costs work means that you are right but when it comes to squad ratio costs the fee is spread over calendar years  25, 26 & 27 not a one off boost.

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Just now, Dokko said:

Fuck him. He's done here. Let's move on quickly and get excited on who is coming in and those who remain. 

 

In 5 years he'll be finished at this level and in Saudi anyway. 

I’d hope the Saudis would give him a swerve given his conduct. I doubt they'll have taken well to it. Then again, the idiots will drop £100m on a clapped out Mo Salah next summer so what do they care.

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1 minute ago, Dokko said:

Fuck him. He's done here. Let's move on quickly and get excited on who is coming in and those who remain. 

 

In 5 years he'll be finished at this level and in Saudi anyway. 

That's the problem, Saudi will give Liverpool £150m for him when he's 30. Watch how much Salah goes for next summer.

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Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

You’re shouting about something you have little knowledge of, as things stand, though 🤷‍♂️

 

We don’t know what will happen today, and how that will play out over the season. 
 

I just can’t be done with the negativity. We’re one good striker away from the squad looking really good and balanced, in my opinion. If that happens today, fantastic… it’ll have been a great window IMO.

In Eddie I trust. He’s made Dan burn an England international. 
 

But financially this just isn’t a great deal for us. 
 

I would be shocked at any other outcome today than (a) signing nobody or (b) buying JSL/Wissa or similar for £50m+. 
 

Financially that’s poor. The business is poor.  Selling Isak was meant to facilitate a spending spree and it won’t. 
 

It also shows the ownership to be weak and to go against their word. They didn’t get the fee they publicly held out for.  Thats arguably the biggest L we’ve taken. Also shows we can be bullied by bigger clubs in the transfer market. So and so is not for sale. Their asking price is x - we won’t believe it. 
 

I back Eddie to make it work on the pitch somehow though.  
 

I’ve said this all year. We will only be as good as the owners are ambitious, competent and driven. The whole summer they’ve not shown the last 2 maybe all 3. The owners are likely to outlast Eddie.  These lot haven’t made great decisions or moved without Amanda.  

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7 hours ago, Ronaldo said:


How much of Woltemade have you seen to think he’ll improve upon 27 goals and 6 assists when we’ve failed to score in 6 out of 7 games without Isak?

 

I want Isak’s career to die when he puts on the Liverpool shirt but let’s not rewrite history and pretend he was a some decent - good 7/10 striker benefiting from the creative genius of Jacob Murphy.

 


 

 

 

I think that Waltemade looks more ready for the PL than what I saw of Isak at Sociedad. I think he has a higher ceiling and what I like about him is that I think his play will bring goals from elsewhere, even when he's not playing well. This is just the eye test without looking too deeply at stats comparing different players in different leagues in different systems.

 

We know Tonali and Guimaraes can finish and I think the quality is still there for Gordon, and we've yet to see Elanga's best in the short time we've seen him. He'll be holding up he ball and feeding those players around him.

 

Doesn't look like a player that will go missing or be as affected by running out of gas as his game is more back-to-the-goal, thinking Ferguson or latter-years Shearer.

 

Time will tell obviously, and I know many aren't going to agree, but I think we're going to look back on this deal in a year's time and be pleased in retrospect with this sale.

 

Let's see how it pans out but I still think 125m is a very good price for him, he won't get much better than he's been here, if at all, imo.

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6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

You’re shouting about something you have little knowledge of, as things stand, though 🤷‍♂️

 

We don’t know what will happen today, and how that will play out over the season. 
 

I just can’t be done with the negativity. We’re one good striker away from the squad looking really good and balanced, in my opinion. If that happens today, fantastic… it’ll have been a great window IMO.

Exactly…. you wouldn’t think we were playing Barcelona in a couple of weeks….

Isaaks gone, fuck him, move on… that’s life and football… if we get another striker in we’ll have 2 top notch strikers… add to that the other signings we’ve made… and then leave everything else to Eddie… 

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20 minutes ago, Rich said:

‘Selling Alexander Isak is a medium-term “silver bullet” for Newcastle United’s financial outlook, freeing them up to potentially spend up to £250m on new players in future transfer windows.

 

That is the view of finance experts who believe the club’s first big sale since their 2021 takeover opens up “huge possibilities” for the next three to four trading periods.’

 

 

‘Due to the way the rules work – incoming signings are amortised over the length of their contracts – this gives Newcastle the capacity to make five £50m signings if they are penning five-year contracts.

 

“It would certainly be a game-changer,” Wilson says. “It gives them flexibility and headroom because any players they bring in are amortised over the length of their contracts. 

 

“This isn’t a case of bringing in, say, £120m or £130m for Isak and then you can only spend the same amount. Your capacity to spend is increased over a number of years. We know because of their revenue levels it’s difficult to spend heavily at the moment but this does unlock that, to an extent.

 

“Newcastle fans won’t want to hear it but they need to accept that to progress they have to be a trading club for a few years – buy them cheap, sell them high. 

 

“It might mean your prized assets go but the reality is you can buy three or four very good players for the value Isak brings in and it has a material impact on the future.”’

Worked for Villa certainly and had the qualified for the CL this season again it would have paid off. Fine margins.

 

PSR really is a cancer on the game.

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Just now, Yorkie said:

Anyone else's Liverpool-supporting father-in-law staying with them atm?

 

Mate I've got to go to work with one today and my daughters boyfriend is one too, I'm surrounded by them in the North West so it's not going to be an easy week!

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2 minutes ago, Terraloon said:

The even crazier way that the who FfP/PSR works alongside squad ratio costs work means that you are right but when it comes to squad ratio costs the fee is spread over calendar years  25, 26 & 27 not a one off boost.

Yeh exactly.  The PSR costs of 5 £50m players over 3 years is about £200m.  That’s double the Isak PSR profit. 

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