Liverpool 2-1 Newcastle United (31/08/2022)

[Lush Vlad]

4 hours ago, Wilson said:

 

He's at Liverpool, he'll get on the highest horse there is. 

 

Shadowfax hasn't got a look in. 

 

[Rafalove]

Find it difficult to disagree too much with what he has said, tbh. Football is fucked, there are more clubs too blame than just ourselves though, we are the latest and most egregious example. It’s the whole system of finances in football as Tiresias alluded to in his excellently worded post. 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Rafalove

[Groundhog63]

7 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

Find it difficult to disagree too much with what he has said, tbh. Football is fucked, there are more clubs too blame than just ourselves though, we are the latest and most egregious example. It’s the whole system of finances in football as Tiresias alluded to in his excellently worded post. 

 

 

 

Thing is his clubs played just as much a part in the elitism at the top of football as any other. Man U as well. 

They're jhst heading for a down turn in their success cycles and can't handle it. 

[Geordie Ahmed]

I guess he wasn't concerned about ceilings when his club took Bobby Clark from our academy 

[Whitley mag]

22 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

I guess he wasn't concerned about ceilings when his club took Bobby Clark from our academy 

Course he wasn’t the whingeing fucking scouse cunt. 

[maze]

Or when the nicked some of our best players from us.

[Kid Icarus]

We've got far more in common with the scousers than most other areas' populations. It's a shame some people have disdain for them and have sided with the people who should be our common enemies.

[Gallowgate Toon]

His point isn't invalid but he must realise that Liverpool have played a part in it becoming a problem. Not all growth for top clubs has been organic... Football was fucked before state-based ownership came along.

 

Tbh, I don't want to see us become dodgy commercial dealers and ridiculous spenders. I really like what the approach appears to be at the moment.

[Groundhog63]

11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We've got far more in common with the scousers than most other areas' populations. It's a shame some people have disdain for them and have sided with the people who should be our common enemies.

This

[Groundhog63]

Stopped clock and all that but he does have a point. The daft bald cunt. 

 

 

[beardsleymagic]

2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

His point isn't invalid but he must realise that Liverpool have played a part in it becoming a problem. Not all growth for top clubs has been organic... Football was fucked before state-based ownership came along.

 

Tbh, I don't want to see us become dodgy commercial dealers and ridiculous spenders. I really like what the approach appears to be at the moment.

Whilst I agree with you that I wouldn’t want us in any way to be involved with dodgy deals, I would want is to be able to get the best deals we can in line with what other premier league clubs are getting.

 

None of this “we don’t think that’s a fair representation of what you should be getting “ by the premier league (after been told by the so called big clubs how much we’re allowed ).

 

We are all in the same competition and should therefore all be allowed to maximise our revenues the same as any other club in that same competition.

 

If Liverpool/Man City etc are allowed to have sponser for £50m a season, why aren’t we? Surely it goes against anti competition laws.

[Dokko]

Someone should tell him its supposed to be a good feeling; to be dancing on the ceiling. 

[gbandit]

People saying they don’t disagree too much with what he’s saying needs qualifying a bit. Yes, football is fucked financially and totally broken but it has been for years, Klopp’s not saying all this because of that, he’s saying it because he feels Liverpool are threatened. He’s also dangerously unhinged nowadays. I would love for proper financial reform in football that levels the playing field and hopefully we get it for the right reasons, not to keep the Liverpools of the league happy 

[Hovagod]

Hope we one day reach the level where a spoilt cunt managing us refuses to manage an FA Cup game we’re supposed to be competing in. 

[Wallsendmag]

28 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We've got far more in common with the scousers than most other areas' populations. It's a shame some people have disdain for them and have sided with the people who should be our common enemies.

 

Couldn't care less about Scousers. This isn't what it's about for me. This is about Liverpool Football Club. The club, along with Spurs, who were the main opposition to our takeover because they didn't want the competition when, at the time they were plotting to join a European Super League anyway. The club who forced residents out of their homes so that they could increase the capacity of Anfield. This is also about Jurgen Klopp. A bloke I can't stand. Another massive hypocrite who does nothing but whinge.

 

I've got nothing against Scousers personally and you are right in what you say. We do have more in common with them than most others.

[The Butcher]

He's such a massive, massive cunt. 

[madras]

32 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We've got far more in common with the scousers than most other areas' populations. It's a shame some people have disdain for them and have sided with the people who should be our common enemies.

My disdain for them is built on years of going there and their fans (both blue and red) being snide as fuck.

[Guest reefatoon]

Just do your job better Jurgen. You have more than enough quality there.

[Cronky]

The guy is under pressure and it shows. Their Premiership winning team has peaked and he needs to re-build. I like the quote - 'Past success is only briefly a glad memory, it quickly becomes an accusing finger'.  That's what he's facing.

 

Very unfair to lump us in with Man City and PSG. We have a different type of ownership structure and there's no sign that we're going to cheat our way through FFP. He's also twisted Ashworth's words.

 

Still, it's nice that he sees us as a threat. I do think that the way that the top six are set up financially makes it dangerous for them to miss out on the CL for any significant time. Hence the headstrong march to the European Super League. We're a threat not because we're going to out-spend anybody, but because there's no room in their thinking for a 7th member.

[madras]

Interestingly Liverpools long period of success was built by Bill Shankly in the early 60s when as a second division club with very modest crowds they bought Ian St John and Ron Yeats for massive fees (Newcastle had been in for St John). It was often rumoured that the money came from the Littlewoods Pools empire

[TheBrownBottle]

25 minutes ago, gbandit said:

People saying they don’t disagree too much with what he’s saying needs qualifying a bit. Yes, football is fucked financially and totally broken but it has been for years, Klopp’s not saying all this because of that, he’s saying it because he feels Liverpool are threatened. He’s also dangerously unhinged nowadays. I would love for proper financial reform in football that levels the playing field and hopefully we get it for the right reasons, not to keep the Liverpools of the league happy 

Yep.  He’s right that football is fucked financially - but his employers are one of the worst culprits of all.  He’d impress me more if he had the bollocks to call out Liverpool’s ownership.  This is just a whine because his team are playing shite at present. 

[Cronky]

11 minutes ago, madras said:

Interestingly Liverpools long period of success was built by Bill Shankly in the early 60s when as a second division club with very modest crowds they bought Ian St John and Ron Yeats for massive fees (Newcastle had been in for St John). It was often rumoured that the money came from the Littlewoods Pools empire

 

Yeah, the Moores family owned both Littlewoods Pools and LIverpool FC for several years. In those days, of course, after the abolition of the maximum wage in 1961, there was nothing to stop owners spending what they wanted.

[Nobody]

How much was Darwin Nuñes again, Jürgen?

[Scotty66]

He's such a hypocrite. If Liverpool had our owners and someone said the comments towards him his response would be similar to his comments about Hamann. 

 

Does he even have a plan B? It seems his teams are all high press attacking but once that gets found out he hasn't really got much else up his sleeve. 

 

The way he stands there on the touchline and grins with his disjointed mouth towards the opposite manager is real shitty too. Just unprofessional. 

 

Would love to see the pressure really build as he just won't be able to handle it due to his ego. 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Scotty66

[Gallowgate Toon]

1 hour ago, beardsleymagic said:

Whilst I agree with you that I wouldn’t want us in any way to be involved with dodgy deals, I would want is to be able to get the best deals we can in line with what other premier league clubs are getting.

 

None of this “we don’t think that’s a fair representation of what you should be getting “ by the premier league (after been told by the so called big clubs how much we’re allowed ).

 

We are all in the same competition and should therefore all be allowed to maximise our revenues the same as any other club in that same competition.

 

If Liverpool/Man City etc are allowed to have sponser for £50m a season, why aren’t we? Surely it goes against anti competition laws.

Good, fair deals are absolutely fine; it's more the stuff that City have been seemingly caught doing when setting up fake companies just to funnel through their riches. That absolutely stinks and I'd hate it if we did the same.