HaydnNUFC Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Sempiternal said: Fair enough, but I think 22 year old men are more than capable of understanding a bad situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Bruh, if I walked into a place with a very clearly underfed animal chained up I’d pretty much know it was bad. You don’t need to be Foccault to figure it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 You graduate university at 21 💀. Most people have a decent handle on life at that age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Sempiternal said: You graduate university at 21 💀. Most people have a decent handle on life at that age They weren’t at my university Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: They weren’t at my university Where did you go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Fair enough, but I think 22 year old men are more than capable of understanding a bad situation. And pointed out to him with all facts present, you'd hope that he would have that moment of realisation. But many of these places have fairly large compounds or enclosures and on the face of it, are no worse than zoos that we are accustomed to in the UK. Add the BS about hand rearing and conservatism that these institutions often feed customers, and you can see the naivety of thinking "no harm in a quick photo". It's without question wrong, but I can make allowances for naivety. He will no doubt learn from the imminent backlash, both in general and about these specific institutions. Edited June 18, 2023 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: How ? When it comes to animal exploitation people have different levels of what they think is acceptable, while cognitive dissonance often means they justify certain actions to themselves when they act against their beliefs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Jesus. People on here really need a transfer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Bet his boots are leather anarl the fucking psychopath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 He's a confident lad , big cats don't bother him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 He managed to control a big cat? That'll come in handy when we play Sunderland in the League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, simonsays said: Jesus. People on here really need a transfer! Only if its Ashby and he's sent to his new club drugged up and in chains, the scumbag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, simonsays said: Jesus. People on here really need a transfer! Agreed! He's taken a photo with a tiger ffs. Sounds like he's booted a feline like Zouma with the way people are going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 can of worms putting it lightly…! You can’t generalise on whether you’re a university graduate or working with your dad’s mates mixing cement how much you know the world. You’re specialising in one area and at a young age, still a bairn to know what’s right and wrong. I’m 42 and I thought I knew it all at that age, then at 26, 32, etc. you learn by your mistakes so don’t be a fucking hypocrite as I’m sure every one of you has done something you’ve looked back on, whether it was last week or 10 years ago where you thought, what a dickhead…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It's another 'we're all hypocrites' situation for me like. The best analogy is probably eating meat. We know it's cruel to slaughter animals but who can resist steak or a bacon butty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, CPL said: The best analogy is probably eating meat. We know it's cruel to slaughter animals but who can resist steak or a bacon butty. I don’t eat meat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, CPL said: The best analogy is probably eating meat. We know it's cruel to slaughter animals but who can resist steak or a bacon butty. Vegans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Vegans There are people further up the scale though, for example a vegetarian might not eat meat due to issues around animal cruelty yet still drink milk, which is arguably a more cruel practice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: There are people further up the scale though, for example a vegetarian might not eat meat due to issues around animal cruelty yet still drink milk, which is arguably a more cruel practice. Perfect is the enemy of good. It’s not more cruel imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: In what way? That criticism of him probably opens us all up to judge-not-lest-ye-be-judged hypocrisy on varying scales re animal welfare, but that it doesn't stop the criticism from being completely valid. Similar to Nmecha thing really, as soon as the homophobia stuff was highlighted the cognitive dissonance alarm went off for me because of the club's owners, in this case it goes off because knowing exactly how horrific the meat industry is hasn't as yet stopped me chowing down on burgers or cheese or eggs or whatever. That's not looking for any fucked up validation or whatever obviously, more just saying we all have these strange contradictions going on. Edited June 18, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 The forum desperately in need of some football content already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That criticism of him probably opens us all up to judge-not-lest-ye-be-judged hypocrisy on varying scales re animal welfare, but that it doesn't stop the criticism from being completely valid. Similar to Nmecha thing really, as soon as the homophobia stuff was highlighted the cognitive dissonance alarm went off for me because of the club's owners, in this case it goes off because knowing exactly how horrific the meat industry hasn't as yet stopped me chowing down on burgers or cheese or eggs or whatever. That's not looking for any fucked up validation or whatever obviously, more just saying we all have these strange contradictions going on. I mean the difference for me is MBS doesn’t pull on the shirt on a Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, Sempiternal said: Bruh, if I walked into a place with a very clearly underfed animal chained up I’d pretty much know it was bad. You don’t need to be Foccault to figure it out What you on about…Your eyes lit up when I told you Rose & Crown used to have topless barmaids upstairs 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Sempiternal said: I mean the difference for me is MBS doesn’t pull on the shirt on a Saturday. Well this is it, we're all drawing these sort of varying arbitrary lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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