Paullow Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) I'm still hoping he goes to Hearts, and if he does, I'll definitely try and get up for a home match later in the year (assuming tickets are quite easy to get hold of). Couple of hours drive, 90 mins on the train, look around Edinburgh late morning, bite to eat, and then a match in a league / stadium I've never seen before. I get that by default he might seem better than some options at our disposal, but it is still a risk to throw a just turned 18 year old into the mix, especially if things turn out not quite as rosy as they have been for much of the season. It's a long way from cameo appearances for the Mariners to being in a battle for European places in the most competitive major league in the world. Edited January 8, 2023 by Paullow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 He’s miles away from home, it’ll do him good to play regularly for 6 months with familiar ish faces. The standard probably isn’t as important as the acclimatising and starting matches regularly. think it’s a sensible move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Kuol to Hearts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Good stuff. Will be keeping an eye out for Hearts fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King HTT III Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Let’s hope he gets some game time and smashes it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Cool, I'll watch some Hearts matches now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Regarding the opinion of going out on loan or not. It doesn’t matter if he’s better than Murphy. He has to go on loan to play as regularly as possible. He won’t be a starting key player for us from the off. Needs games to develop properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 It'll benefit the player better to play, which he's more likely to do at Hearts. But benefit us better in the short term to use him place of Murphy/Wood. He'll be raw, discipline could be a problem but I cant see him not doing a lot better with what was presented to those two yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie1874 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Paullow said: I'm still hoping he goes to Hearts, and if he does, I'll definitely try and get up for a home match later in the year (assuming tickets are quite easy to get hold of). Couple of hours drive, 90 mins on the train, look around Edinburgh late morning, bite to eat, and then a match in a league / stadium I've never seen before. I get that by default he might seem better than some options at our disposal, but it is still a risk to throw a just turned 18 year old into the mix, especially if things turn out not quite as rosy as they have been for much of the season. It's a long way from cameo appearances for the Mariners to being in a battle for European places in the most competitive major league in the world. Tickets are actually quite difficult to get hold off. My advice would be to sign up for Jambos kickback fan forum and ask in there for any spares. Someone should be able to help you there. Context - we have sold out season tickets and have over 2.5k on a season ticket waiting list, so demand is really high for tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gorgie1874 said: Tickets are actually quite difficult to get hold off. My advice would be to sign up for Jambos kickback fan forum and ask in there for any spares. Someone should be able to help you there. Context - we have sold out season tickets and have over 2.5k on a season ticket waiting list, so demand is really high for tickets. I have been browsing that forum since the news first broke, and did notice the season tickets / get the impression it might not be as easy as you'd generally suspect, but cheers, I might do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie1874 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Paullow said: I have been browsing that forum since the news first broke, and did notice the season tickets / get the impression it might not be as easy as you'd generally suspect, but cheers, I might do that. Monitor this webpage https://www.eticketing.co.uk/heartofmidlothian/ After scanning a few of the games available on there, there are some seats. People will be putting their tickets on the exchange. I also think possibly sections K & L might be for walk up / not available for season tickets so you should manage to get one. The alternative would be to make a day of it and getting a hospitality package Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Likelylad said: Absolutely no way he’s not already better than Murphy tbf Agree. After Murphy's Sheffield Wednesday performance, I really tempted to keep Kuol as replacement for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I hope going from Australian summer to Scottish winter doesn’t break the poor lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, FLUMPO235 said: I hope going from Australian summer to Scottish winter doesn’t break the poor lad. Not much fazes him. For me, the bigger worry is the heavier Scottish pitches. The last Aussie wunderkind (Daniel Arzani) tore his ACL on debut for Celtic and his career has never recovered. Tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Coastie said: Not much fazes him. For me, the bigger worry is the heavier Scottish pitches. The last Aussie wunderkind (Daniel Arzani) tore his ACL on debut for Celtic and his career has never recovered. Tragic. Well, cheers for those happy thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Coastie said: Not much fazes him. For me, the bigger worry is the heavier Scottish pitches. The last Aussie wunderkind (Daniel Arzani) tore his ACL on debut for Celtic and his career has never recovered. Tragic. going through the channels the other day a Scottish game looked like it was being played on Artificial Grass, donno what league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 80 said: Well, cheers for those happy thoughts There are plenty of other Aussies who've had long careers in Scotland. It's just that Kuol is lightning paced so, with zero sport science to my knowledge, I wonder whether that pace endangers him more than slower players - esp when twisting and turning (which he does a lot). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Interesting how Pep does it with his top prospects. Foden never went out on loan, his development path seemed to be get the odd run out and train with the first-team. They're now doing it with Cole Palmer it seems. Will be 21 at the end of the season and never had a loan spell. Rico Lewis is 18 but no loans and I doubt he'll go out either even if he's in and out of the squad over the next couple of years. I think for Kuol who's coming to a new country rather than being at the club from 10 or whatever it's different, but it's just the flipside of the 'he needs games' coin (Anderson for instance). Edited January 9, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Interesting how Pep does it with his top prospects. Foden never went out on loan, his development path seemed to be get the odd run out and train with the first-team. They're now doing it with Cole Palmer it seems. Will be 21 at the end of the season and never had a loan spell. Rico Lewis is 18 but no loans and I doubt he'll go out either even if he's in and out of the squad over the next couple of years. I think for Kuol who's coming to a new country rather than being at the club from 10 or whatever it's different, but it's just the flipside of the 'he needs games' coin (Anderson for instance). Agree but Pep has dead rubbers on Europe, a run of five games in the League Cup, generally a deep run in the FA Cup and loads of PL games where they’re 3-0 or more up to bed them in. We don’t have that luxury yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toon25 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Nucasol said: Agree but Pep has dead rubbers on Europe, a run of five games in the League Cup, generally a deep run in the FA Cup and loads of PL games where they’re 3-0 or more up to bed them in. We don’t have that luxury yet. Pep is also able to give those youngsters game time playing alongside world class players like De Bruyne and Silva. Wor Garang would see Chris Wood ahead of him and Jamal Lascelles behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Glad he's going there. I think Reading are, predictably given Paul Once is managing them, top of the stats for long balls in the Champo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Pretty sure Paul Once was the ISS98 name for Ince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Had a little read of that Jambos kickback forum. Seems like a lot of them don't think Kuol is going to start for them. But also a lot of them seem extremely excited and calling him one of the best/most exciting prospects in world football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Also came across these two quotes . Don't know which forum they're reading as I've mostly seen people on here saying it's a really good choice of club for him to go on loan to. Quote Quite a lot of NUFC fans slagging off our league and city on their forum they need to remember they’ve been crap for a good number of years until the money men have come in the young lad will do fine with us Quote Their "city" is a shithole. Its a small town concrete carbuncle reminiscent of Dundee, famous only for stag and hen weekends. Their football team has won **** all for around 70 years. Its a record even Hibs would be embarrassed by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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