Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, midds said: That goal only happened as a direct result of the handball. If that hits his gut then it would have dropped and probably been cleared, the handball kept the ball/move alive and they scored about 3.2 seconds later. Utter pigshit situation If we're going to make decisions based upon trajectory of the ball several touches prior to the actual goal caused by a non deliberate handball compared to the hands not being there I fear we're in for a lot more VAR ruining a lot more football. We'll be seeing more VAR video replays than live football. Handballs need to be deliberate, offsides need to be blatant and daylight. Both as intended. Done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Away Toon said: They really have to do something about Var and the people implementing it. Scrap it and go back to still getting some decisions wrong but not waiting 5' to find it out. Edited October 24, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Benrahma is such a greedy player. Learn to pass !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Jesus that tackle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Definite red that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: If we're going to make decisions based upon trajectory of the ball several touches prior to the actual goal caused by a non deliberate handball compared to the hands not being there I fear we're in for a lot more VAR ruining a lot more football. We'll be seeing more VAR video replays than live football. Handballs need to be deliberate, offsides need to be blatant and daylight. Both as intended. Done. That's fair enough tbh. I just hate the inconsistencies and lack of clarity. If it's a defending team there then I think it's a handball and a pen? If it's the exact same incident but an attacking player handling it then it's fine - but it's the same incident. Why is it different for one shirt but not the other? The incident is the incident regardless of where and who made it, the whole thing is a complete mess and needs a root and branch overhaul. Then you've got the issue of the fucking idiots looking at the footage who were appalling referees a number of years ago before they put 5 clem on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Kevin Nolan loving his pie and mash, I see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Be amazed if Bournemouth score from open here. Would bet on them to get the least goals from open play this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I think a good improvement for VAR would be to have a timer on it - something like 60 seconds from the play stopping and if they can't make a clear recommendation within that timeframe, stick with the original onfield decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The actual fuck, Antonio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Pilko said: I think a good improvement for VAR would be to have a timer on it - something like 60 seconds from the play stopping and if they can't make a clear recommendation within that timeframe, stick with the original onfield decision. Then you'd get them deliberately watching it over and over when it's against one of the big clubs. 'Oh is that a minute already? Damn we can't overturn it now time's up'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 West Ham getting another crazy handball goal? Seems a bit weird that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, midds said: That's fair enough tbh. I just hate the inconsistencies and lack of clarity. If it's a defending team there then I think it's a handball and a pen? If it's the exact same incident but an attacking player handling it then it's fine - but it's the same incident. Why is it different for one shirt but not the other? The incident is the incident regardless of where and who made it, the whole thing is a complete mess and needs a root and branch overhaul. Then you've got the issue of the fucking idiots looking at the footage who were appalling referees a number of years ago before they put 5 clem on. Oh aye absolutely agree about lack of consistency and clarity, and yeah absolutely, if that was a defending team, would it be a penalty, and chances are high it'd be given or have been previously. It's all absolutely mental. They've supercharged the complexity of decision making so of course there's going to be errors and inconsistencies everywhere. Easiest answer is imo, though, why is everything so anal? Ask me should that handball have meant the goal was disallowed? No. If it was a defending team should it have been a penalty? No. Everything is clearer when its simple and not chasing 'consistency'. We've got in to this position bevause bad decisions were being made so now they're aiming to try and replicate those bad decisions everywhere else as much as they can? Absolutely mental. Ive mentioned before but a good way of improving VAR a little and stopping idiotic takes from VAR is having more than 1 VAR ref and they have to agree on the decision otherwise it's the ref's to make. Edited October 24, 2022 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The games gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 So that’s a pen but ours wasn’t yesterday ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Theyre going to give this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Perfect example of why VAR is driving people up the wall, can't get an ounce of consistency out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 West Ham are certainly getting paid back for that bad decision they got against them a few games ago. Of course we haven't had such luck since then. Joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Bournemouth have got every right to be fucking raging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 How can that be handball and Royal wasn’t and West Ham’s 1st goal wasn’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Fucking mental VAR decision making, who’s on VAR? This is a disgrace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Nah man, what you supposed to do sliding in like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Absolutely insane decision. He’s about a yard away and his arms are ‘natural’ as fuck if you’ve diving to block. Need West Ham for my bet to come in so can’t complain too much mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 They've criminalised having 4 limbs in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: Fucking mental VAR decision making, who’s on VAR? This is a disgrace Mike Dean ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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