54 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: That's a fucking disgusting image I'm really game someone picked up on that comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 @54 hoy that into the football in AI thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 2 minutes ago, Mike said: @54 hoy that into the football in AI thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 19 minutes ago, Mike said: Blackpool aren't on draftkings ffs. Guess I'll just work for a living. Get on over to Fanduel instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 25 minutes ago, 54 said: This isn't necessarily on the player though, it on UEFA for creating a situation where this happens, top level footballer are just playing an exorbitant amount of football, that to try and find time to actually recover, rest and recuperate is just next to impossible, and the schedule is just getting worse and worse. So whether you like it or not, players have to make tough decisions about when that happens, especially when it's literally their body they're running into the ground for the aim of entertainment, and a competition that is basically a bunch of glorified friendlies, is going to be something that players look at as a way to actually get that rest, and recover. It's going to happen more and more too and UEFA and FIFA don't give a toss about player welfare and keep adding more and more games to the calendar. It's not the fact he chickened out of playing that grinds my gears the most, it's that he, the captain of the team - left the team to travel back to London, telling the press he intended to relax on his sofa and recuperate for the rest of the week. Even if you don't intend to play, when you've already traveled out to meet up with team... stick the fuck around and motivate your teammates as their fucking captain. Be a on the subs list for both matches, with the understanding that you won't get subbed in unless the match has become a defcon one situation or similar. It's about just taking basic responsibility for your given role as captain of the team... At worst, sit out the Slovenia away fixture and don't travel down there with the team tomorrow night. However, given that the fucker owns an even larger and better apartment in Oslo than the one he has in London, the fucker could just as well relax on his sofa there until the squad returns on Friday. Then he could join up with them during the day and relax in his fucking sofa the rest of the day. And, if the standings make it clear that Norway needs o win the last Nations League match against Kazaksthan to win their league, grow a pair of fucking balls, take responsibility and lead your fucking team out on the pitch to annihilate the fuckers. Play through the fucking pain, you fucking managed it extremely well for 90 minutes plus extra time this weekend, as well as half the match against Inter in a few days before that. Between this weekend's match and the Boratstan match on Sunday, you'll have been able to fucking sit and relax on your designer fucking sofa for an entire week. Blame UEFA and FIFA as much as you want, look me in the eyes and tell me Shearer would've done the same as Ødegaard ahead of two crucial matches to have a chance at qualifying for the World Cup? Or that Bryan Robson or Kevin Keegan would? All I see is that modern footballers don't even care about getting the chance to fight for glory in major tournaments, I'd not be surprised if the majority of professional footballers today don't actually enjoy the sport they play - for them it's just a job like any other. When players revealed that they didn't care about football even though they were among the best players in the world a decade or two ago, it sent shockwaves through the media... "how can he not enjoy football when he's so good at it?!?" Now, what used to be a shocking reveal, feels like the norm. I'd be more shocked if a player today said in an interview that they are genuinely passionate followers of the sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Erikse said: Seeing people are arguing stuff like "he can't play twice in a week", as if it's either 180 min or nothing. It's not like he HAD to start both, even just coming in after 60 would atleast show that he somewhat prioritized it. Seeing the presser with Solbakken is allways infuriating, the guy gets way less critical questions than any other manager in a similar position, and still starts crying and attacks the journo everytime someone asks him something remotely critical. Most of the time there's nothing wrong with the question, it's just that he doesn't want to answer the question, so instead he becomes super defensive. Eddie Howe conducts himself infinitely better when he gets asked questions that are 10 times worse. Worst part is, the NFF are just as toothless as Solbakken himself, and that's why he's still there. 100% this! I'd not even mind him using the excuse he pulled today as a reason to stay behind in Norway, sitting out the Slovenia match. That choice could be framed by him as the captain "having faith in the team to do the business", yet still leave the window open for him to either start against the Kazakhs, or start on the bench to either sit that match out as well if we cruise to victory - or enter the pitch when/if needed as a "supersub", as what that would mean to the players on the pitch would be a massive motivating factor for the remainder of the game. They'd have been told the intention for Ødegaard would be to sit out the match, so when they see him get ready to come on - what they'd perceive would be their captain choosing to play through the "pain" to make sure Norway wins. It's even more infuriating once you stop to think about how well everything could be spun if they weren't idiots, just his presence in itself - putting the needs of the nation he's been chosen to lead above his own "needs"? Getting subbed on as a supersub, changing the pre-match plans because Norway appeared to need a lift? It's a shitshow. If Haaland hadn't acted like the biggest fucking spoilt brat when he filled in for Ødegaard as captain in the last two matches, I might have lost my shit less dramatically over this. But everything wrong with modern football keeps happening over and over and over again and I just... I despair, I feel saddened, I feel like my favorite sport doesn't exist anymore - actual footballers that at least somewhat care and gave a shit just doesn't exist anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 8 hours ago, Kaizero said: It's not the fact he chickened out of playing that grinds my gears the most, it's that he, the captain of the team - left the team to travel back to London, telling the press he intended to relax on his sofa and recuperate for the rest of the week. Even if you don't intend to play, when you've already traveled out to meet up with team... stick the fuck around and motivate your teammates as their fucking captain. Be a on the subs list for both matches, with the understanding that you won't get subbed in unless the match has become a defcon one situation or similar. It's about just taking basic responsibility for your given role as captain of the team... At worst, sit out the Slovenia away fixture and don't travel down there with the team tomorrow night. However, given that the fucker owns an even larger and better apartment in Oslo than the one he has in London, the fucker could just as well relax on his sofa there until the squad returns on Friday. Then he could join up with them during the day and relax in his fucking sofa the rest of the day. And, if the standings make it clear that Norway needs o win the last Nations League match against Kazaksthan to win their league, grow a pair of fucking balls, take responsibility and lead your fucking team out on the pitch to annihilate the fuckers. Play through the fucking pain, you fucking managed it extremely well for 90 minutes plus extra time this weekend, as well as half the match against Inter in a few days before that. Between this weekend's match and the Boratstan match on Sunday, you'll have been able to fucking sit and relax on your designer fucking sofa for an entire week. Blame UEFA and FIFA as much as you want, look me in the eyes and tell me Shearer would've done the same as Ødegaard ahead of two crucial matches to have a chance at qualifying for the World Cup? Or that Bryan Robson or Kevin Keegan would? All I see is that modern footballers don't even care about getting the chance to fight for glory in major tournaments, I'd not be surprised if the majority of professional footballers today don't actually enjoy the sport they play - for them it's just a job like any other. When players revealed that they didn't care about football even though they were among the best players in the world a decade or two ago, it sent shockwaves through the media... "how can he not enjoy football when he's so good at it?!?" Now, what used to be a shocking reveal, feels like the norm. I'd be more shocked if a player today said in an interview that they are genuinely passionate followers of the sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Kaiz is mostly right but think it might be more of a Norway problem than a football problem. Loads of old as fuck players like Dzeko, Modric, Perisic still playing for their countries when their and their teams' best days are behind them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 On 13/11/2024 at 08:46, triggs said: Kaiz is mostly right but think it might be more of a Norway problem than a football problem. Loads of old as fuck players like Dzeko, Modric, Perisic still playing for their countries when their and their teams' best days are behind them You basically just helped my point by giving more "evidence" for the game being gone there, to be fair Ødegaard and Haaland aren't old, they're both almost billionaires at 24 and 25 years of age. Peresic is the youngest of the three players you mentioned, but still 1o years older than Haaland and Ødegaard. Those ten years may not sound like they should matter, but how kids today watch, and think, about football is completely alien to me - and I am Peresic's age I think I saw a stat about the average age of a season ticket holder 10 years ago, vs now, which coincidentally fits this post perfectly. But yeah, if someone first told you what the average age of a season ticket holder at a club in the top four divisions in England was, ten years ago - before proceeding to ask you to guess what the average age is today... would you *logically* have dared to answer an age that wasn't fairly close to what you were informed the average was ten years ago? Because if you would've done that, you'd be mistaken. The average age now, compared to ten years ago, is almost exactly ten years older - kids today doesn't have the attention span to go watch football. They can barely maintain interest watching it at home, where they'll certainly be diverting their attention to their phone screen for the better part of those 90 minutes than they do watching the actual game. I saw a report that kids aged 15 or less no longer watch matches on TV unless it's a match of utmost importance. Instead, they watch a TikTok with the most important highlights after the game has finished. Even if they play some football themselves I find it hard to believe that anyone, really, would believe that those kids - the same kids throwing a hissy fit if the TikTok highlights video even just dares to be any longer than 3 to 5 minutes - would grow up to become professional athletes that were motivated by their love for the game instead of the paycheck? I've been doing agent work on the side for almost two years now, so I've dealt with a fair amount of up and coming footballers from all around the world. The players you mentioned were kids when war ravaged the Balkan nations, which in turn makes me 100% believe that if a club/club manager had even just hinted to Dzeko that he should avoid playing for Bosnia, he'd knock them the fuck out. The Balkan countries are one of the few countries in Norway that still runs on national pride. The only youth players I've spoken to that felt like they would give all their blood, sweat and tears playing for their country - for which they wouldn't be paid - even though a club that pays them millions had asked them to consider it. Their motivation being personal achievement, winning trophies and making a name for themselves in the sport. It's literally the only country whose youth players haven't blatantly just told me that they don't care about what club they go to, as long as the club they sign for is the club that offered to pay them the most money. Putting which country it was in a spoiler so anyone that wants to guess before finding out get a chance to do that: If this trend continues, the players I've spoken to will be around 25 to 28 years old when we get to the 2030 WC in Saudi Arabia. If their players don't end up joining the current treng amongst youth players, they'll probably win that WC as their team will be the only one that actually care about winning it for the glory and honor it'd bring them. All the other country's players will phone it in because they can't believe they even agreed to giving up their holiday to go play football without even getting paid over 100k per week to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) Nusa just did what Ben Arfa would've done Edited November 14 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Tonali scores for Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 3 minutes ago, vic said: Tonali scores for Italy. That's him back on the bench next week then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Nusa man. Ben Arfa 2.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Canny https://x.com/varskysports/status/1857211222447243545?s=46&t=yPbd9G8BOq0rWw0jv09aDg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Paraguay beating Argentina 2-1 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted Friday at 18:38 Share Posted Friday at 18:38 (edited) Well done to @Pata's U21 lads, no way we get back from 5-1 down to qualify for the 2025 EC in the reverse fixture. Finland's just done a perfect example of "it doesn't matter if you dominate the game if you can't score any goals" Edited Saturday at 05:03 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted Friday at 19:00 Share Posted Friday at 19:00 Miley on for Jobe Bellingham in England U21 match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted Friday at 19:20 Share Posted Friday at 19:20 On 12/11/2024 at 19:31, 54 said: You must be a loving husband, watching a Blackpool game managed by Steve Bruce in the EFL trophy. I don't think a more grim sentence has ever been written That said, Steve Bruce might as well be living in Paul Scholes house with how much he tastes defeat. Almost a week late but that's a bloody brilliant pun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted Friday at 20:04 Share Posted Friday at 20:04 (edited) Lovely goal from the Spanish. Ayoze playing up front wearing the 9. Just got an assist. Merino with the pre assist lol. Edited Friday at 20:04 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Friday at 22:05 Share Posted Friday at 22:05 Love a bit of Eastern European political aggro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SUPERTOON Posted Saturday at 12:14 Share Posted Saturday at 12:14 Thank God this is the last international break until March. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted Saturday at 14:16 Share Posted Saturday at 14:16 League of Ireland promotion/relegation playoff between Drogheda and Bray Wanderers is on if anyone is totally desperate, hopefully for your own sake you are not.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted Saturday at 15:05 Share Posted Saturday at 15:05 NUFC women are playing at 2pm tomorrow, which I think'll be on the app? But yeah, international breaks suck when we've been on a winning streak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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