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Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

The mackems?

Shared between Villa, Bournemouth, Everton, Palace, Swansea, Hull, West Ham, and Man City.

 

Note, others have suffered more when the Premier League had more teams.

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This Liverpool title may be the most "meh" I've experienced. Obviously it'll be class for their fans, but for the general public this feels like it'll be a title win that will be very quickly forgotten.

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Still don’t get the Covid argument about it having an asterisk or not being competitive or whatever. Every team played in empty or half empty stadiums. It was the same for all. 
 

As for this being the worst or one of the worst title winning teams. Feels like recency bias to me and perhaps spoiled by some of the mad points hauls we’ve had in recent years. With the likes of City and Liverpool going toe to toe. Or when Arsenal and Chelsea have got in on the act and into the title race. 
 

95-96 was when it went to a 38 game season. Fair few since then with high 70s and low 80s as the final points total. Liverpool already have 82 and have 4 games to go. 
 

I know it’s fashionable to dislike Liverpool and I can see some of the arguments about them not being great or even as good as Klopp’s side. But not sure that should be used against them. They were an elite team and were unlucky to just come up against prime Pep at the same time. 
 

Can’t say I remember all of the league winners from yesteryear and if the other teams in the league seemed below par or whatever. So points seems the fairest way of doing it and the numbers aren’t numbering. 
 

Anyway, everyone knows the League Cup is the more prestigious trophy. But I’m happy for them all the same :lol: 

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Weren't Liverpool winning comfortably and on their way to breaking tons of records until covid truly hit the league? I think their record was something like 28-1-0 when the postponement of games and empty stadiums started happening. They actually only started dropping points after the covid break that happened. Without covid they would have probably beat Man Citys 100 point record.

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The problem with the covid argument is that its simply untrue. Man city were the covid winners as it was the 20/21 season that had no fans. Liverpool were awful that season. 19/20 had fans most of the season. then lockdown happened. by the the time lockdown happened liverpool were way ahead. They were on a streak trying to win every match. 

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Overall this has been an awful prem season. Awful title race and even worse relegation battle. Yes the race for europe is fun but that the bundesliga/ligue 1 is the same thing and even they have interesting relegation battles. But I guess that's exactly what the Red Cartel wanted

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12 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

Overall this has been an awful prem season. Awful title race and even worse relegation battle. Yes the race for europe is fun but that the bundesliga/ligue 1 is the same thing and even they have interesting relegation battles. But I guess that's exactly what the Red Cartel wanted

I was thinking about this, it's been a really competitive season, in that the middle of the field has gotten a load stronger, so their a lot less shit mediocre teams, where any team can beat anyone, with teams like Man City and Arsenal getting beat way more often, which you'd think would make things more dramatic, but it's actually done the opposite as all it's meant is that Liverpool have just had to be consistent week in week out and it's been a cake walk, while teams that come up just can't compete, as their base is so much lower than everyone else, so they're way off it.

 

So despite it being more competitive it's weirdly made the season more dull, and effectively over with 4 games left.

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Certainly not been an exciting league. With relegation and the winners locked in ages ago. 
 

I just think it’s lazy to conflate that with Liverpool being ‘bad’ champions. It doesn’t really ring true. They could still easily break 90 points. Even if they don’t. They’ve been consistent for pretty much all the season until a few recent blips. 

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54 minutes ago, 54 said:

This Liverpool title may be the most "meh" I've experienced. Obviously it'll be class for their fans, but for the general public this feels like it'll be a title win that will be very quickly forgotten.

Don’t agree there, more memorable than loads of them for me - half the Man City and Man U ones blurred into one. Even Chelsea ones have. The final Ferguson one was memorable for how unmemorable it was  Remember hardly anything about the last four. 
 

Granted the race has been over for a while, but just by not being Man City, and a team I’ve only ever seen do it once before, it’s more memorable and preferable to me. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Love how McTominay is doing in Napoli. Like it when a player leaves the shit show of Man Utd and thrives elsewhere :D 

 

The same McTominay that was causing meltdowns on here when we were linked.

 

Someone on here actually said he was a league two player and was dead serious about it.

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Can't help but feel that most of the noise about it being an easy win for Liverpool and worst season ever is coming from the likes of Man Utd supporters as they lick their lower half wounds. 

 

Liverpool have beaten what's been put in front of them, what else can they do? Yes there's an element of fortune there that City are way off it and their closest rival is a hit and miss Arsenal side that could still finish 3rd in a 2 horse race.

 

I think a lot of teams are in transition and there's a change in the pecking order at the top end of the table, the likes of us and Villa will make life more difficult for the league leaders in the seasons to come and dare I say it, spend some time there ourselves.

 

 

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The key for Liverpool this season has been their consistently away from home.

 

In a season where Man City have collapsed and Arsenal have struggled for creativity, they've been the best side by quite a margin.

 

That said, Slot has benefited hugely from Klopp's ability to spunk circa £150 million on a brand new midfield last season, as well as Salah being in the form of his career until the New Year.

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6 minutes ago, Fak said:

McTominay on a hat trick as Napoli go back top. 

 

Scoring massively important goals to make them favourites in the title hunt.

 

Good for him.

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Going out of my way to avoid any/all coverage of them celebrating and/or lifting the trophy at all. I'm aware it's happened but that doesn't mean I want to see a single second of the fucker. I've also managed to avoid 99% of their previous PL celebrations too, I've seen the odd few seconds of footage from their covid title but managed to switch it off sharpish thankfully

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