Stifler Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I’d love to be in the Europa League, yeah ok it was better when it was just knockout rounds, but it is what it is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Gottlob said: By the same criteria, what were our good performances this year in the Champions League? Evidently none of the victories, which all came against meaningless opposition, nor the draw against Leverkusen who are one place above Freiburg in the Bundesliga. I guess the 1-1 draw in a virtually meaningless tie against PSG? Or are we still waiting for our commemorative shirts and DVDs for being totally annihilated by Barcelona but almost matching them for the first three-quarters? Pretty much. Aside from one marginal underachievement against Marseille and one marginal overachievement against PSG, we basically just achieved par in the CL. (Obviously I'm only counting the result against Barcelona, rather than the manner of defeat...) The wins against USG, Benfica, Bilbao, PSV and Qarabag were all fun on the night but they were complete mismatches and we (a pretty average PL outfit) steam-rollered every one. They were hardly Barca '97/PSG '23. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Next season is going to be very uncomfortable if the filthy twats down the road qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Both comps are the English clubs cups to lose. They're going to have to change the rules or formats to change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Wolfcastle said: Both comps are the English clubs cups to lose. They're going to have to change the rules or formats to change that. I'd imagine UEFA won't be at all happy if English clubs enjoy a consistent stranglehold on all 3 comps. But again, it shows where all the money is going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Isn't there some crazy stat that English teams have won like 20/20 play off games against non English competition in the EL/Conference League play offs now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: Both comps are the English clubs cups to lose. They're going to have to change the rules or formats to change that. With begrudging fairness to the PL, all it's done is establish itself as the pinnacle of the club game. Europe needs to get it's shit in order to catch up. Fuck knows how. I worry it'll only be possible if something goes wrong here. ... Like completely self-terminating it's glorious reputation by retrospectively stripping one of it's most successful clubs of several titles due to 115 cases of cheating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Big Geordie said: I'd imagine UEFA won't be at all happy if English clubs enjoy a consistent stranglehold on all 3 comps. But again, it shows where all the money is going. Perhaps if the Euro giants actually shared some of the revenue about in their respective leagues they may have some actual depth. Instead Bayern, PSG, Real, Barca and Inter just monopolise and dominate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 What Villa have done well is managing being in the Europa and keeping some form in the PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Perhaps if the Euro giants actually shared some of the revenue about in their respective leagues they may have some actual depth. Instead Bayern, PSG, Real, Barca and Inter just monopolise and dominate. Fair point that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Probably been said already but Europa League is nowhere near as difficult to win without the Champions League dropouts anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, joeyt said: Probably been said already but Europa League is nowhere near as difficult to win without the Champions League dropouts anymore Champions League drop outs into the UEFA/Europa was a sham anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Has DJ OneDek smuggled himself to Istanbul? Or do all club OneDek’s have the same preordained playlist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Champions League drop outs into the UEFA/Europa was a sham anyway. Yeah i agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Fuck you @brummie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 6 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Perhaps if the Euro giants actually shared some of the revenue about in their respective leagues they may have some actual depth. Instead Bayern, PSG, Real, Barca and Inter just monopolise and dominate. While this is a fair point. The English Premier League is doing exactly the same, just they get a far bigger pie, so even the smaller pieces are bigger than anything distributed around Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 minutes ago, Yorkie said: With begrudging fairness to the PL, all it's done is establish itself as the pinnacle of the club game. Europe needs to get it's shit in order to catch up. Fuck knows how. I worry it'll only be possible if something goes wrong here. ... Like completely self-terminating it's glorious reputation by retrospectively stripping one of it's most successful clubs of several titles due to 115 cases of cheating. Not allowing investment in clubs has cut off the only chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Worse than both relegation seasons this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: While this is a fair point. The English Premier League is doing exactly the same, just they get a far bigger pie, so even the smaller pieces are bigger than anything distributed around Europe. Slightly dated stats but: EPL distribution is the most equitable with the top club earning only 1.6 times the bottom club. One of the main drivers for increased competitive balance and maintaining the attractiveness of the overall league product is ensuring that outcomes and results are as uncertain as possible. That is part of the reason why La Liga, with its two historically dominant clubs Real Madrid and Barcelona, decided to change their revenue distribution structures (by agreeing to move to a collective broadcasting agreement) to make the league more attractive and (in time) increase the competitive balance across the league. Nonetheless, at present, La Liga has the highest top to bottom club revenue ratio at 3.6. Serie A is 2.3 and Ligue 1 and the Bundesliga are 3.3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 What an awful season. If Palace win and Spurs stay up I'm going to need a blow to the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Missing CL qualification due to apparent injustice last season turns out not too bad for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 If Rogers got that goal given against Man United, I think this would have been us tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 17 minutes ago, duo said: What Villa have done well is managing being in the Europa and keeping some form in the PL Because you can play your strongest team in the premier league and then some squad players in most of the europa games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: What an awful season. If Palace win and Spurs stay up I'm going to need a blow to the head. Potentially 3 trophies in 2 season for Palace. Who would have predicted that. I thought we'd be the exception in breaking the trophy barrier dominated by the superleague clubs, but it's looking fairly routine right now. Europa League would have been brilliant for us next season. Edited May 20 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I think we achieved more in the CL this season than Villa have in the Europa with our performances against top class sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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