Kilcline Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: Pipe down. It’s been ages since I last pointed out that the stat nonces knew fuck all. You're thinking about whether Szoboszlai's slip was an error leading to a chance/goal because there was a pass before the finish aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Ergh, good God, man. You said they hadn't been shite; they have. Plenty of times. They're where they are on merit and credit to them; they're a good side and Emery has objectively done a terrific job. But what's got them there was an absolutely unstoppable run between October and Christmas. Other than that they've blown hot and cold. They can't have been shite as often as you say to be in the position they're in. 4 minutes ago, Robster said: Think you need to take a break from it all. Have no clue why you've turned this thread into the Anti-NUFC thread I've done no such thing, I asked a simple question about why the 3 games a week thing seems to cripple us but another team in a similar bracket manages to navigate it loads better. It seems to have stung loads of people. Thankfully for us all we'll get a break from it all in a few weeks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, brummie said: TBF that 'OMG they're out performing XG' shite from last season has carried on. We've had some seriously iffy spells, and some seriously good ones. The away at your place was our last really convincing away league performance. We've just had successive shite results against teams we should really have beaten. We've managed to 'manage' the whole season brilliantly, though, and Emery deserves huge credit for that. You also look at the sort of performances John McGinn has put in recently, too, those don't get plucked out of the air. Emery isn't perfect, he's got plenty of things wrong this season (Spurs for example, which was a desperate low) but over the course of the season he's managed the whole spell superbly. When he came 4 years ago, we were 17th and stinking of (another) relegation. To do what he has done since then with a pathetic small net spend compared to the managers he's competing with, and the loaded nature of the system, is just incredible. I’ve said this plenty of times on here but a few months back I read a very detailed article about how the way you play and score goals contradicts the way the stat calculations think football is played and goals are scored. And the Villa tactics they outlined in the article are exactly how you beat us at our place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Measuring it in hours or days? Months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Ergh, good God, man. You said they hadn't been shite; they have. Plenty of times. They're where they are on merit and credit to them; they're a good side and Emery has objectively done a terrific job. But what's got them there was an absolutely unstoppable run between October and Christmas. Other than that they've blown hot and cold. Could say the same about our run at Christmas last season tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, Kilcline said: You're thinking about whether Szoboszlai's slip was an error leading to a chance/goal because there was a pass before the finish aren't you? No. Whenever I think of Szoboszlai all I can think about is how disgustingly hairy his legs are. He’s got more body hair than a Mexican Wolf Boy. And it’s disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Stuy_O said: Could say the same about our run at Christmas last season tbf. That's all it takes, obviously easier than it sounds. Beat most or all the shite and have a decent run or two and you're right in the mix for Europe. Obviously to win the league is a bigger step up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Pilko said: They can't have been shite as often as you say to be in the position they're in. I've done no such thing, I asked a simple question about why the 3 games a week thing seems to cripple us but another team in a similar bracket manages to navigate it loads better. It seems to have stung loads of people. Thankfully for us all we'll get a break from it all in a few weeks anyway. It's because the whole topic of what has gone wrong this season has been talked about Ad Infinitum. The chat about tonight's game ust didn't need it brought up yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 13 minutes ago, Pilko said: They can't have been shite as often as you say to be in the position they're in. They're literally just through a run of: throwing away a win against Burnley; an absolutely pitiful surrender at home to the worst Spurs team in two generations; and a defeat at Fulham. Points dropped against Leeds and Forest and lost to Wolves in the recent past, too. Even the disgrace that is NUFC avoided doing that this season. Villa are good and they're better than us this season. But framing your latest bout of NUFC cryarsing around them never being shit didn't really make any sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 So what's the ideal then? Liverpool miss out on champions league, spurs go down and man city win the league? Is that the best of this terrible season? It's a tall ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Guybrush said: So what's the ideal then? Liverpool miss out on champions league, spurs go down and man city win the league? Is that the best of this terrible season? It's a tall ask. Two wins for us to restore a bit of optimism heading into a summer of rest and renewal and PSG battering Arsenal would do me, everything else you mentioned very welcome bonuses though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 The same team that have smashed the shit out of us 7-3 on aggregate this season A terrible reflection of where we are as a team man, we’re in no position to criticise these lads being as shite as we are like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 7 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: The same team that have smashed the shit out of us 7-3 on aggregate this season A terrible reflection of where we are as a team man, we’re in no position to criticise these lads being as shite as we are like What's this in reference to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What's this in reference to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 47 minutes ago, Pilko said: I've done no such thing, I asked a simple question about why the 3 games a week thing seems to cripple us but another team in a similar bracket manages to navigate it loads better. It seems to have stung loads of people. Thankfully for us all we'll get a break from it all in a few weeks anyway. Does them playing in a lesser competition count towards anything? They've not had to play away at PSG, Barcelona, Leverkusen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 20 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: The same team that have smashed the shit out of us 7-3 on aggregate this season A terrible reflection of where we are as a team man, we’re in no position to criticise these lads being as shite as we are like We played quite well for 41minutes in the 4-1 defeat though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 36 minutes ago, Yorkie said: They're literally just through a run of: throwing away a win against Burnley; an absolutely pitiful surrender at home to the worst Spurs team in two generations; and a defeat at Fulham. Points dropped against Leeds and Forest and lost to Wolves in the recent past, too. Even the disgrace that is NUFC avoided doing that this season. Villa are good and they're better than us this season. But framing your latest bout of NUFC cryarsing around them never being shit didn't really make any sense. And this is your latest bout of being selective, handpicking a bunch of results to suit a head in the clouds, happy clapping narrative lacking any kind of proper analysis or critical thought. It must be class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 45 minutes ago, Robster said: It's because the whole topic of what has gone wrong this season has been talked about Ad Infinitum. The chat about tonight's game ust didn't need it brought up yet again. Go somewhere else then. You can't dictate what other people comment on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Pilko said: And this is your latest bout of being selective, handpicking a bunch of results to suit a head in the clouds, happy clapping narrative lacking any kind of proper analysis or critical thought. It must be class. How is me saying Villa have been shit on occasions 'happy clapping' or claiming Newcastle haven't had a poor league campaign? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, joeyt said: Does them playing in a lesser competition count towards anything? They've not had to play away at PSG, Barcelona, Leverkusen Maybe a little yeah. I'd say the games are all 90 minutes and there aren't many games in the Europa where you can cigar it up and not expend energy, although they are undoubtedly easier than a lot of the equivalent games we have played. Someone else said it above but I think they'll have allowed the ball to do the work in some of those games rather than having to pull the lever marked "graft" to full throttle which I'm hoping we can start to do a bit ourselves next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Ergh, good God, man. You said they hadn't been shite; they have. Plenty of times. They're where they are on merit and credit to them; they're a good side and Emery has objectively done a terrific job. But what's got them there was an absolutely unstoppable run between October and Christmas. Other than that they've blown hot and cold. Emery was close to getting sacked after the first 6 games when they couldn't score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, joeyt said: Does them playing in a lesser competition count towards anything? They've not had to play away at PSG, Barcelona, Leverkusen And bowing out of the domestic cups at the first and second hurdles. There's an extra 5 games we had when we could have done with a breather. We had games every few days for MONTHS. Between 13th September and 12th April the only times we had a week between games were the international breaks. Not exaggerating. 7 months with games every 3 days ffs. Massive games too. Runs like the below where every game felt seismic for our season: It was gruelling, it was bruising, it was relentless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 14 minutes ago, Interpolic said: And bowing out of the domestic cups at the first and second hurdles. There's an extra 5 games we had when we could have done with a breather. We had games every few days for MONTHS. Between 13th September and 12th April the only times we had a week between games were the international breaks. Not exaggerating. 7 months with games every 3 days ffs. Massive games too. Runs like the below where every game felt seismic for our season: It was gruelling, it was bruising, it was relentless. And I don't think anyone would say it hasn't felt like it either. I can't believe there's another game next week, I've never known a season feel even 3/4 this long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: And I don't think anyone would say it hasn't felt like it either. I can't believe there's another game next week, I've never known a season feel even 3/4 this long. I watched Bradford/Bolton last night and it dawned on me that we played Bradford this season. Not even right at the beginning either; it was our seventh game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 hours ago, brummie said: To be fair, we've just come out of a prolonged bout of awful form where we put together a run of truly dreadful results. Wondered when you'd show up again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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