bowlingcrofty Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I take my 7 year old son into the Gallowgate. I have to say quite often the people around me tone their language down and usually go out of their way to make him feel welcome. Quite often people come and give him a flag etc. I don’t swear when he’s there but also I think some exposure to swearing is good because I can then influence him in terms of him knowing what he can or can’t say etc. The old fella next to us the other day at the Villa game was even singing “Bruno’s flipping magic…” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 There is some middle ground here lol I swear a lot but in a crowded public space with kids about it is reasonable that while you may judge it fine for your kids to be around that language your standards aren't everyones standards so is perfectly reasonable that you are expected to moderate it somewhat, and also it is possible to be overreacting to some colourful language and get in a moral panic about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, 80 said: The family section as it stands isn't much of a family section... There's plenty of naughty language there, if that's the concern. It's also in a relatively crap part of the ground if you want to see other aspects of the game. Just find it ironic that a woman feeling excluded from 90% of a ground because it's a passionate sport isn't a problem, but the blind feeling excluded from the finer points of a visual depiction is! I think you have more autonomy over whether you feel excluded by the use of language that comes with the territory and literally not being able to see something because you're blind like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It's 2022. Anyone who's offended by 'swear words' is... Very easy to spin both ways. I'm not offended. I couldn't give a fuck you daft cunt. Still stands tho. If you can't or won't moderate your language in public you're a bit of a cock, imho, obvs 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Such a stereotypical working class sport. Needs changes like warning/bans for foul language in and around the ground. I’d also ban alcohol in the ground and maybe give stewards the power to refuse entry if they believe an individual has imbibed excessive amounts of alcohol prior to trying to enter the ground. A crowd similar to The Voice or Strictly would be far less intimidating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: I think you have more autonomy over whether you feel excluded by the use of language that comes with the territory and literally not being able to see something because you're blind like Yeah, but being excluded from seeing a picture goes with the territory when you're blind, right? Which is what we're discussing. You want to change imagery to adjust the territory blind people want to engage with, but don't want people to adjust the territory women want to engage with. I feel like you'd have a different attitude to this if someone was calling a footballer a black bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: I'm not offended. I couldn't give a fuck you daft cunt. Still stands tho. If you can't or won't moderate your language in public you're a bit of a cock, imho, obvs 😉 I can and I think most people do. I wouldn't count a football match as one of the places where you moderate it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, 80 said: Yeah, but being excluded from seeing a picture goes with the territory when you're blind, right? Which is what we're discussing. You want to change imagery to adjust the territory blind people want to engage with, but don't want people to adjust the territory women want to engage with. I feel like you'd have a different attitude to this if someone was calling a footballer a black bastard. Nah it's for visually impared people and it's not the sole reason, there are plenty of other reasons to as well, none of which exclude anyone. Being fully blind is different obviously, but there are ways to make things accessible that crucially don't exclude other people by doing so. That's the difference. Swearing might be excluding someone who if they're an adult, imo, need to get a grip, but if you stopped swearing from being allowed in stadiums you'd be excluding plenty of people in doing so. That's the difference. It's like the people who move in next to a music venue then petition to get it closed, it's exactly the same principle. You go to the match, you go in with your eyes open to an extent. And yes, of course I'd have a different attitude, as would most people I would hope. Unless you're equating swearwords with racist abuse, I dunno what you're getting at though. Edited November 3, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: This is exactly it. There's a family section for a reason. You can’t sit in the family section without a child TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: You can’t sit in the family section without a child TBF. That explains the funny looks I was getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, 80 said: You apply this logic to racial epithets? Yeah sorry, I was more meaning like someone using the word cunt than a racial slur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Racial slurs are different but as an ethnic minority I can tell you that I (and many people I know) actually find it offensive when someone tries to be offended on my behalf about something minor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) What a game this was for us. 10 people from Newcastle United Denmark travelled to the game. Personally it was my 21th Newcastle game on stadium. Stadium tour friday, the match on saturday and sunday we were lucky enough to visit Joelinton at his house. After the game he took our flag down to the dressing room where it was signed by all the players. The next day we picked up the flag at his house, got signed our shirts, flags, match programmes and stuff like that, photos. He's just a class act, on and off the pitch. Will never forget this trip and I can't wait to visit again. 2 of the guys travelling with us had never seen Newcastle live before, they were speechless. Joe talks a bit about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvukpLpipI Edited November 3, 2022 by nufcmichael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, nufcmichael said: What a game this was for us. 10 people from Newcastle United Denmark travelled to the game. Personally it was my 21th Newcastle game on stadium. Stadium tour friday, the match on saturday and sunday we were lucky enough to visit Joelinton at his house. After the game he took our flag down to the dressing room where it was signed by all the players. The next day we picked up the flag at his house, got signed our shirts, flags, match programmes and stuff like that, photos. He's just a class act, on and off the pitch. Will never forget this trip and I can't wait to visit again. 2 of the guys travelling with us had never seen Newcastle live before, they were speechless. Joe talks a bit about it here: Joelinton talks about Newcastle United Denmark visiting him - YouTube The link to the YouTube clip hasn't worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, NEEJ said: The link to the YouTube clip hasn't worked. Should work now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: It still irks me thinking about the time I was calling Howard Webb a cunt and the old bloke in front of me randomly started having a go at me for it and saying it offended his wife. Without even thinking about it I apologised and it still annoys me that I didn't tell him and his wife to fuck off. One of those situations you think about in the shower and wish you could re-do. Keep an eye on the obituaries and settle the score, iyam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Not Joelinton being a full kit wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Cringing at tannoy announcements, complaining about sweary words. What a bunch of Fanny’s man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, bowlingcrofty said: I take my 7 year old son into the Gallowgate. I have to say quite often the people around me tone their language down and usually go out of their way to make him feel welcome. Quite often people come and give him a flag etc. I don’t swear when he’s there but also I think some exposure to swearing is good because I can then influence him in terms of him knowing what he can or can’t say etc. The old fella next to us the other day at the Villa game was even singing “Bruno’s flipping magic…” Think I was in my in my teens until I realised the Mirandinha song ended with 'he's fucking brill'. Dad used to sing 'and he is brill' around me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I love belting out a string of swear words at a match, nothing fucking like it. Can't beat the emotion a match drags out of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: I love belting out a string of swear words at a match, nothing fucking like it. Can't beat the emotion a match drags out of you. Aye, absolute seething rage at the opposition doing a cynical foul that would get a round of applause if we done it to them... nowt like it man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, nufcmichael said: What a game this was for us. 10 people from Newcastle United Denmark travelled to the game. Personally it was my 21th Newcastle game on stadium. Stadium tour friday, the match on saturday and sunday we were lucky enough to visit Joelinton at his house. After the game he took our flag down to the dressing room where it was signed by all the players. The next day we picked up the flag at his house, got signed our shirts, flags, match programmes and stuff like that, photos. He's just a class act, on and off the pitch. Will never forget this trip and I can't wait to visit again. 2 of the guys travelling with us had never seen Newcastle live before, they were speechless. Joe talks a bit about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvukpLpipI That's fantastic! Funnily enough, I recall watching the match cam video put out by the club and Joe was on there taking a red flag from someone in the crowd at the end. I wondered what that was about, now I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, nufcmichael said: What a game this was for us. 10 people from Newcastle United Denmark travelled to the game. Personally it was my 21th Newcastle game on stadium. Stadium tour friday, the match on saturday and sunday we were lucky enough to visit Joelinton at his house. After the game he took our flag down to the dressing room where it was signed by all the players. The next day we picked up the flag at his house, got signed our shirts, flags, match programmes and stuff like that, photos. He's just a class act, on and off the pitch. Will never forget this trip and I can't wait to visit again. 2 of the guys travelling with us had never seen Newcastle live before, they were speechless. Joe talks a bit about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvukpLpipI "Northern Denmark" tickled me a bit when you can throw a rock from one end of the country to the other Amazing experience for all of you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcmichael Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Conjo said: "Northern Denmark" tickled me a bit when you can throw a rock from one end of the country to the other Amazing experience for all of you! Haha true, we're just a few fans from this part of the country, watching the games together and travelling together. So we got the idea of the flag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 That Denmark visit is class. What an awesome experience! In regard to what you can and can't say at a match, with enough varied intonation you only need to say "Howay!" An example: (At the ref) Howay! (At the lads) Howay! See? Completely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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