nufcjb Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 Pope has done it for ages. Usually around the 70+ minute mark. Teams will start noticing it if they havent already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 7 hours ago, nufcjb said: Pope has done it for ages. Usually around the 70+ minute mark. Teams will start noticing it if they havent already. Most team do it. Not much the ref can do really, they can’t send the keeper off for 30 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: Most team do it. Not much the ref can do really, they can’t send the keeper off for 30 seconds. I mean the biggest punishment they can offer is it all goes on as extra time. So while a keeper injury might get you breathing space/time to regroup/ unsettle the flow/frustrate the opposition/ allow tactical instruction to get out. It can lead to a big chunk of extra time which as we know can bite you in the arse. Edited November 4, 2024 by nufcjmc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 (edited) I think the Pope thing has alway been about letting Howe give tactical instructions rather than wasting time. That and occasionally to break the opposition’s rhythm if they are getting on top. Edited November 4, 2024 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 4 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: I think the Pope thing has alway been about letting Howe give tactical instructions rather than wasting time. That and occasionally to break the opposition’s rhythm if they are getting on top. aye, think schar used to go down for the same reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 4 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: I think the Pope thing has alway been about letting Howe give tactical instructions rather than wasting time. That and occasionally to break the opposition’s rhythm if they are getting on top. With Pope too, they’re not going to send him to sidelines to be waived back on either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 Just felt more like our old proper selves last two matches with the Big and Little Joe, the shithousing, the press and intensity. TBH, I just do really like that high octane football. There isn't really going to be a right sided attacker who will get a sniff when the Joe's are fit and flying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 (edited) Arsenal came here with the mentality that they had to out-shithouse us in essence. Whenever they do that, they fail. If they stuck to playing their football, they'd be more likely to beat us. It's all because they absolutely dropped their bait when we beat them 2-0 in Eddie's first season. We've then played them numerous times and know they'll shite themselves if we get under their skin. Edited November 4, 2024 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted November 4, 2024 Share Posted November 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, Heron said: if we get under their skin. Havertz at the end with Pope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 10, 2024 Share Posted November 10, 2024 Bump. Let's get this done gentlemen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted Saturday at 22:10 Share Posted Saturday at 22:10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Saturday at 22:12 Share Posted Saturday at 22:12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Saturday at 22:15 Share Posted Saturday at 22:15 ramping it up just in time for a little sortie to the Emirates.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Wednesday at 13:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:42 I find it kind of amusing that to this day we get seen as the pillar of time wasting in the league, when in actual fact we are one of the quickest to get the ball back into play in the league: Thats not to say that we don't do it, as we do, but every team does at one point or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted Wednesday at 13:45 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:45 2 minutes ago, 54 said: I find it kind of amusing that to this day we get seen as the pillar of time wasting in the league, when in actual fact we are one of the quickest to get the ball back into play in the league: Thats not to say that we don't do it, as we do, but every team does at one point or another. And Arsenal (and even the comentators last nigt) are questioning us. Ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted Wednesday at 14:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:05 21 minutes ago, 54 said: I find it kind of amusing that to this day we get seen as the pillar of time wasting in the league, when in actual fact we are one of the quickest to get the ball back into play in the league: Thats not to say that we don't do it, as we do, but every team does at one point or another. Would be interesting to see the average for each team when in a losing or winning position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted Wednesday at 14:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:19 13 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said: Would be interesting to see the average for each team when in a losing or winning position Chuck drawing in too given that stat about 6 of Everton's 9 yellows for time wasting have been at 0-0 in the first half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted Wednesday at 14:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:47 Thing is we haven’t actually been that shithouse, not to previous levels, and yet just because we’re winning it’s “dark arts Newcastle” being trotted out again. Headloss all owa the place for very minimal shithousing. Even Arsenal fans couldn’t really muster up enough care to boo Dubravka for taking time on gk’s (spoiler, he wasn’t taking any longer than should be expected). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted Wednesday at 14:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:58 1 hour ago, 54 said: I find it kind of amusing that to this day we get seen as the pillar of time wasting in the league, when in actual fact we are one of the quickest to get the ball back into play in the league: Thats not to say that we don't do it, as we do, but every team does at one point or another. Saw stats for time a corner is taken specifically (cannot remember where), Arsenal taking a good 40+s on their corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted Wednesday at 15:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:25 Think we need to be careful as and when we do it- refs are certainly aware of the narrative being pushed and happy to play 10-12 minutes (spurs) and probably go to their pocket quicker than they would for other teams- thought Tinos booking last night was extremely harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Wednesday at 16:51 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:51 1 hour ago, geordiesteve710 said: Think we need to be careful as and when we do it- refs are certainly aware of the narrative being pushed and happy to play 10-12 minutes (spurs) and probably go to their pocket quicker than they would for other teams- thought Tinos booking last night was extremely harsh. Agreed. We should be thinking about preemptively fighting this with statistics re: time wasting etc. as refs are weak enough to be easily prejudiced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted Wednesday at 16:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:53 Trippier is the master of it. I just love watching him doind his tricks to wind down the clock. Learned it from his time at Atletico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Wednesday at 17:22 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:22 1 hour ago, geordiesteve710 said: 10-12 minutes (spurs) Dont think that game is the best example. Both Gordon and Dubravka went down injured for several minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted Wednesday at 19:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:09 2 hours ago, 80 said: Agreed. We should be thinking about preemptively fighting this with statistics re: time wasting etc. as refs are weak enough to be easily prejudiced. Need Eddie to highlight these facts in his pre game interviews to get it into the refs mind we’re not the shithouses rivals claim we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted Wednesday at 20:36 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:36 (edited) 3 hours ago, nufc123 said: Dont think that game is the best example. Both Gordon and Dubravka went down injured for several minutes. As did their keeper in fairness. But the 2 minutes added at the end of the 10 was because we were taking the piss. Edited Wednesday at 20:37 by geordiesteve710 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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