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The Quarter Finals: Croatia, Argentina, Morocco, and France through


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4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:


People hate to admit how much elite sport comes down to luck and variance. 
 

We need a scapegoat like Kane. Or to blame Southgate for somehow being out-coached. Whilst simultaneously also being in charge of the better team on the night.
 

But then not really looking at the incidents that come down to about six inches (Al Pacino - Any Given Sunday).
 

It is what it is. I like this England team and I think we played well. Unlike the Croatia and Italy defeats.  


Aye couldn’t agree more.
 

Nevermind the pen, who knows where Giroud’s header goes if it doesn’t smack off Maguire? Hernandez has something similar with Saka and it flashes wide. 
 

Makes it even more frustrating mind. 

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Just now, tomlynnherrington said:

If only Goofy hadn’t gone along with the media’s campaign to get Walker in the team and Trippy out the team,he would have had Trippy on the pitch for that last minute free kick.

I thought Walker handled Mbappe well, tbh.  Trippier struggles with pace, though when Rashford stood over that ball I went to make a cup of tea, knew where that was going

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1 minute ago, Caleb70 said:

I think it is time for a manager change now mind. Imagine a good manager in 4 years with: Foden, Saka, Bellingham etc. 

Nee way, we need to keep Southgate hes done a cracking job

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1 minute ago, Ronaldo said:

Saka off for Sterling is lunacy. Sterling shouldn’t be anywhere near, let alone replacing our best player on the night.

Are you aware of Sterling's record for England? Granted I wouldn't have taken Saka off - bad decision - but I'd have brought Sterling on.

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Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Under Southgate we've reached a World Cup semi-final and were European Cup runners up by virtue of a penalty shootout. He's one of our most successful managers of all time.

 

If someone who can progress the side is available so be it, ask him to step aside, but he should not be sacked after a defeat to the reining world champions by the narrowest of margins.

The thing is though like I said he got there because of the luck of the draw. If previous England managers got those draws we would have got as far or further. If a better manager got those draws then we would probably have went further.

If we got those tough teams earlier would we have went out? Well the evidence says we would. Like I said even in the World Cup we got beaten by Belgium, but got through because it was the group dragged, then lost again to them in the 3rd play off place.

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I've watched quite a few England exits from major championships, and I'm usually frustrated at our performance, but on this occasion I feel we gave our best and were just unlucky. It was an even game, and we matched a top side.

 

The first French goal should not have stood and we should have had another penalty of course. 

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2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

Saka off for Sterling is lunacy. Sterling shouldn’t be anywhere near, let alone replacing our best player on the night.

 

That substitution was just crazy.  Pretty much all the attacking play was coming via Saka, he was causing France problems constantly.  He should have been the last player to be subbed off.

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Are you aware of Sterling's record for England? Granted I wouldn't have taken Saka off - bad decision - but I'd have brought Sterling on.

 

Aye sterling is mostly class for England. Should have started ahead of foden arguably.

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2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Are you aware of Sterling's record for England? Granted I wouldn't have taken Saka off - bad decision - but I'd have brought Sterling on.


He kept y’all in the Euros. Deserved the same chance at the WC. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

I just feel in a world cup of 5 subs we massively underused our squad.

Rather then hold back and save energy we could have put teams to the sword for a full 90 mins.

 

Maddison, grealish, Rashford Gallagher, Wilson and more all their in our tool box

Yep, France’s biggest weakness was their injuries pre-tournament.  But he’s a reactive manager - despite the fact that c.70 mins you could see the momentum swinging the other way, he waited for France to score to change it.  Small ‘c’ conservatism at its finest.  The likes of Howe makes those changes around the hour mark

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3 minutes ago, tomlynnherrington said:

If only Goofy hadn’t gone along with the media’s campaign to get Walker in the team and Trippy out the team,he would have had Trippy on the pitch for that last minute free kick.

This is a weird take given Walker had Mbappe in his pocket all game.

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Will be interested to see if Southgate stays or goes…I could see the logic either way. I don’t think he’s necessarily deserving of the sack, and he certainly deserved to bring the team into this WC. Might just be time for a change.

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2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Are you aware of Sterling's record for England? Granted I wouldn't have taken Saka off - bad decision - but I'd have brought Sterling on.


Sterling has been out of form for a while, not to mention the fact he inexplicably went home this week and there were ‘doubts’ about him coming back with his country in a World Cup QF. 

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10 minutes ago, Ste said:

I don’t know how Southgate is getting stick here. Saka and Foden put the miles in, he absolutely had to make those changes. 

 

Why did he, if Saint Max and Almiron were destroying a team and it was 1-1, Howe wouldn't take them off.

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