LiquidAK Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Will be interested to see if Southgate stays or goes…I could see the logic either way. I don’t think he’s necessarily deserving of the sack, and he certainly deserved to bring the team into this WC. Might just be time for a change. Agree - no way should he be sacked. He's done a fantastic job overall. I wouldn't be opposed to freshening it up though if the right manager came along - Christ knows who could take it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, LV said: Hang on, we haven’t finished whinging about England yet.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: They are - but Sterling has been out of form for some time. Yeah, I think we can all agree that John Stones, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, Declan Rice, Jude Bellingham, and Jordan Henderson are better players than Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, and Paul Scholes were. Howeh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Only problem: which “good” manager could you get? I know a nice man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dembabah Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Only one man for the job...he's from waalsend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, cubaricho said: I hadn’t seen that Morocco goal yet. Boy can that dude jump. Lalas said it was poor keeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Mike said: Lalas said it was poor keeping. Lalas is the definition of jabroni. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Yeah, I think we can all agree that John Stones, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, Declan Rice, Jude Bellingham, and Jordan Henderson are better players than Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, and Paul Scholes were. Howeh. Easy to list the worst vs the best like We’ll need to agree to disagree on this one mate - I think this is a technically gifted group of players, and I think the likes of Lampard’s and Terry’s deficiencies were masked at club level by the standard of players they played with, as well as a superb manager in his prime knowing exactly how to maximise their strengths. The UEFA rules re ‘home’ players always means that some English players will figure in our best club sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ste said: The next England manager is already part of the set up unless Howe/Potter express an interest which I doubt. That’s the way the FA decided to do things after the Iceland defeat and they won’t steer away from it. Well they did go for Allardyce first but I think you're right; you'd think the next England manager is going to be 'grown' in the same way Southgate was via his work in youth development, the creation of St George's Park and managing the Under-21s. No idea who it is though; Carsley? One of Southgate's current coaches? I wouldn't be astonished if someone like Henderson was being groomed to come in after the Euros. He's been a regular in the set up since pre-St George's. Maybe they'd try and get Rooney involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike said: Lalas said it was poor keeping. It was tbh. Spoiler Soz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Aside from the fact a grown man and multimillionaire didn’t have the foresight to hire security for a few grand when every criminal in Britain knew he was 2 continents away, what the fuck did he go home for? To rebuild his barber shop or check his Rolexes were still there or what? Likely his last WC and the manager has shown more faith in him than anyone in his career. It’s baffling. He went to check on his family. Christ man, who even thinks like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Also, I was disappointed that Trippier lost his place to Walker but I think it was definitely the right call tonight to play Walker. He managed to track Mbappe for pace most of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Probably one of the worst officiating I've seen at a WC, having said that, we were the better team for large swathes of that game but failed to create many meaningful chances and the few we created, we spurned. France are dirty and got away with blue murder for most of the game and Mbappes laugh to the camera when Kane misses his penalty was indicative of the manchild he is. The loss against Italy last year was a bitter pill to swallow and had me devastated, I'm not even bothered by this, something about this whole world cup has been off. Argentina or Morocco ftw please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: He went to check on his family. Christ man, who even thinks like this. It's either incredibly thick, or peak WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: Also, I was disappointed that Trippier lost his place to Walker but I think it was definitely the right call tonight to play Walker. He managed to track Mbappe for pace most of the time Tripps would have buried that Rashford free kick tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Easy to list the worst vs the best like We’ll need to agree to disagree on this one mate - I think this is a technically gifted group of players, and I think the likes of Lampard’s and Terry’s deficiencies were masked at club level by the standard of players they played with, as well as a superb manager in his prime knowing exactly how to maximise their strengths. The UEFA rules re ‘home’ players always means that some English players will figure in our best club sides They're the starters in their positions for both teams. I left out Kane vs Rooney, Foden vs J Cole, Saka/Sterling vs Beckham because they're at least debatable. I left out Walker/James/TAA/Trippier because that's the one position where you're right. I would think anyone would agree that Terry was a better player than Maguire, Ferdinand better than Stones, Cole better than Shaw, Gerrard better than Rice, Lampard better than Bellingham - at least for the time being - and Scholes better than Henderson. Edited December 10, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Wouldn't mind Argentina, Croatia or Morocco winning it now. Nothing against France, it'd just be quite boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 The ref was absolutely shit but I'd have completely lost my temper if we'd had that arsehole that reffed Argentina Netherlands yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: They're the starters in their positions for both teams. I left out Kane vs Rooney, Foden vs J Cole, Saka/Sterling vs Beckham because they're at least debatable. I left out Walker/James/TAA/Trippier because that's the one position where you're right. I would think anyone would agree that Terry was a better player than Maguire, Ferdinand better than Stones, Cole better than Shaw, Gerrard better than Rice, Lampard better than Bellingham - at least for the time being - and Scholes better than Henderson. Agree with everything apart from Bellingham, that boy is different class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Desperate for Messi to win it now, partly because it's him and partly because I think Mbappe's a total cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) decent performance but thats about it. again southgate makes baffling and late subs. sterling and mount coming on - why when we have maddison, rashford ( i know he eventually came on but too late), and even a fox in the box wilson on the bench. we werent protecting a lead we were chasing the game.. and I bet the french couldnt believe their luck when he took saka off. he wasnt injured or tiring. Edited December 10, 2022 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: They're the starters in their positions for both teams. I left out Kane vs Rooney, Foden vs J Cole, Saka/Sterling vs Beckham because they're at least debatable. I left out Walker/James/TAA/Trippier because that's the one position where you're right. I would think anyone would agree that Terry was a better player than Maguire, Ferdinand better than Stones, Cole better than Shaw, Gerrard better than Rice, Lampard better than Bellingham - at least for the time being - and Scholes better than Henderson. Ferdinand is better than any of England’s current centre halves, Cole was a world class LB, and Scholes was a superb midfielder - though of course badly used by England. But I think Foden, Bellingham etc are more technically gifted attacking mids than Gerrard or Lampard, and I’m one of those who thinks Terry’s flaws were exposed playing for England when he didn’t play in that superb Chelsea team - protected by a world class holding midfielder, defenders and GK I’m ok with anyone disagreeing on this (it’s not a ‘football hill’ I’d die on ) but it’s my honest view Edited December 10, 2022 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Wullie said: Desperate for Messi to win it now, partly because it's him and partly because I think Mbappe's a total cunt. That we can agree on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The ref was absolutely shit but I'd have completely lost my temper if we'd had that arsehole that reffed Argentina Netherlands yesterday He was hilariously bad mind. There’s always at least one of those ref performances at a WC. It made it entertaining to me, but if I was Dutch or Argentinian I’d have been apoplectic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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