Deuce Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Caleb70 said: I think it is time for a manager change now mind. Imagine a good manager in 4 years with: Foden, Saka, Bellingham etc. Only problem: which “good” manager could you get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Tomato Deuce said: Will be interested to see if Southgate stays or goes…I could see the logic either way. I don’t think he’s necessarily deserving of the sack, and he certainly deserved to bring the team into this WC. Might just be time for a change. I've always thought that no matter what happened, this tournament was the end of his lifecycle, and he would resign. I hope people respect his achievements when he does go, and not stamp all over him, he's been a great ambassador for the English game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 If it's a Croatia - Morocco final they should let Canada play Belgium in the 3rd place play off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, ElDiablo said: No we don't, we always look second best against the top sides. Tonight they looked and played like they thought they could win. Genuine question - how old are you, I’m 49 and in my lifetime we’ve had some good managers and good performances against top teams but have very little or no results to show in my lifetime. This is why I’m now £50 up with bets against us because whenever we come up against these teams I now expect to get beat every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Klaus said: He didn't really win it tbh. Moment of madness from the French defender Yeah, that was insanity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Pretty gutted tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Wouldn't read too much into the late subs tbh. Game was finished as soon as that penalty got skied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, tomlynnherrington said: Sterling has been shit all season,but that get’s you on the pitch for England. So has Maguire. I really wish people would separate England form and club form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I understand the disappointment, but it is ridiculous to be criticising Southgate for this loss. Hammer the ref if scapegoats are your thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Massive respect to Giroud in fairness. He’s so good in the air and clinical in general Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: So has Maguire. I really wish people would separate England form and club form. Fair enough. Sterling has been shit for England for over a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: I understand the disappointment, but it is ridiculous to be criticising Southgate for this loss. Hammer the ref if scapegoats are your thing. What about Declan Rice? Can I scapegoat him. What the fuck does he do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Sterling has been out of form for a while, not to mention the fact he inexplicably went home this week and there were ‘doubts’ about him coming back with his country in a World Cup QF. Eh? Nothing inexplicable about it and he did come back. Irrelevant really. His England form has stayed decent despite his Chelsea form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Will be interested to see if Southgate stays or goes…I could see the logic either way. I don’t think he’s necessarily deserving of the sack, and he certainly deserved to bring the team into this WC. Might just be time for a change. He’ll not get sacked Id have thought but suspect he might walk, seems to have reached a natural breakpoint for both. Wouldn’t have a clue who’d replace him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, jack j said: What about Declan Rice? Can I scapegoat him. What the fuck does he do I could get on board that particular rant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I understand the disappointment, but it is ridiculous to be criticising Southgate for this loss. Hammer the ref if scapegoats are your thing. I’m going to get pelters, but I thought the ref was alright tbh. There was a consistency to his approach, he tried to let the game run, and England were constantly looking for fouls and flung themselves to the deck at every opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Eh? Nothing inexplicable about it and he did come back. Irrelevant really. His England form has stayed decent despite his Chelsea form. Nothing inexplicable about leaving the squad to fly home 4000 miles and back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Disco said: He’ll not get sacked Id have thought but suspect he might walk, seems to have reached a natural breakpoint for both. He deserves one last crack (ie the Euros) and he'll feel that too imo. Be very surprised if he's not still the manager when they come around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Fair enough. Sterling has been shit for England for over a year. He hasn't though You were trying to tell me this lot are player for player better than the 'golden generation' the other day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Only problem: which “good” manager could you get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Only problem: which “good” manager could you get? Some of the press (Holt and co) will push like mad for Eddie Howe to fuck us over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Pretty likeable England team overall. Apart from Pickford and Kane. Trippier would have scored the freekick, like. France the better side though IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I’ve been a big hater of Southgate but can’t really blame him this tournament. Still think you should replace him to get new faces in the squad to replace some of the older favourites of Southgate. Kane still has 1-2 tournaments left in his prime. Deschamps is horrible and really doesn’t deserve another WC win, hope Morocco knocks them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Nothing against Southgate as such but I would much rather he stepped down and give us 4 years to develop a team for the next World Cup. His contract is up after the euros.. why start a fresh after that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Yeah, I think he’s had enough of being the person to try and hold everything together while being such a target. If he does go, he can leave knowing he’s been one of the most successful England managers in history and done a great job of getting the players to care more about playing for England / reduced the fear England players have of playing in international tournaments. That can’t be underestimated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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