The College Dropout Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, McCormick said: I see your point but I don’t think we’ll ever really catch up (financially) to the likes of Man Utd, City, Arsenal and Liverpool (even Chelsea but the rules are adversely affecting them too) so the best we can expect in the near future is to always be the team that capitalizes on one or more of them having a poor season and grab CL that way. I see Villa and ourselves (and Spurs) in competition for that spot and the less competition for us the better. Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Oh definitely, but once Son leaves, retires etc. I don’t see them being able to justify larger sponsorship revenues; you either need a global megastar or sustained success and I don’t see them getting those anytime soon. Coupled with the fact that their owners aren’t as willing as ours to take on losses year on year; I see them as very catchable. Edited January 30 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Forest aren’t going away are they. feels like we have to win today & beat Forest later this month, going to be a key game that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Forest looking very good for top 4 now with Pool, Arse, Forest, City. Between us, Chelsea, Bourn and Villa for 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Win today and the gap between us and 9th is 10 points, the chances of 8th being some form of European football is very high Could do with Villa/Bournemouth falling away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 30/01/2025 at 14:07, The College Dropout said: Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve. In the medium term they have big stadium debts to pay off, they paid 45m in interest last year, plus whatever capital repayments they had. They have ran up real world losses the last few years so I guess they don’t have the cash (in PSR land they are ok as it’s all excluded from the calcs, but not sure they have real money to buy players). Arsenal went through a similar phase post Emirates. Once that debt is down they’ll be very strong financially Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 30/01/2025 at 14:07, The College Dropout said: Spurs have the finances to compete. Levy just doesn't want too. Spurs revenue is impressIve. Tottenham Hotspur has PSR headroom, but that's distinct from their overall financial situation. Their recent accounts showed a loss above £200 million, largely due to stadium repayments, which doesn't affect their PSR. This creates a misconception about their financial health. Our owners are prepared to utilize our full PSR headroom, even if it means operating at a loss. Some clubs, including Tottenham, cannot or will not take that approach. You only have to look at Manchester United to see why. This explains why many teams in the bottom half of the league are content with the £105 million, three-year rolling loss limit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Forest looking very good for top 4 now with Pool, Arse, Forest, City. Between us, Chelsea, Bourn and Villa for 5th. I would still be disappointed if we don't overhaul Forest. They have to come to our place yet. We want a CL spot, if we are going to miss out, I don't want it to be to the likes of Forest or Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: In the medium term they have big stadium debts to pay off, they paid 45m in interest last year, plus whatever capital repayments they had. They have ran up real world losses the last few years so I guess they don’t have the cash (in PSR land they are ok as it’s all excluded from the calcs, but not sure they have real money to buy players). Arsenal went through a similar phase post Emirates. Once that debt is down they’ll be very strong financially Exactly, too much attention is put to PSR headroom, that people forget the overall accounts of the football club. Not every club has owners like us who are willing to bank roll the project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 27/01/2025 at 15:16, TRC said: Expect Forest to drop away with their fixtures coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 38 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Forest looking very good for top 4 now with Pool, Arse, Forest, City. Between us, Chelsea, Bourn and Villa for 5th. Can see city pulling clear of Forest bit then it's anyone's game for 4th and 5th. Top 8 in danger of pulling away a little now but Europe comes into play for a couple of clubs so picture could change. 4th or 5th is there for the taking, right now I'd be disappointed with anything below 6th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Very annoying that Brighton just let them fix their GD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 26/01/2025 at 09:08, astraguy said: Just looking at our remaining fixtures more importantly February, With our performances lately i cant see top 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Forget about top 5. Nowhere near consistently good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Forget about top 5. Nowhere near consistently good enough. We need to be in Europe next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Oh dear. Back to looking like 7th is most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 We essentially have to beat Man City and Forest to have any chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 if our home performances are going to be this bad then I think we slide down the table, sadly. Remaining away fixtures are brutal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 How far down the table do the European places go this season? Top five CL, 6th EL, 7th Conference League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Would love Champions League but cannot see us getting it this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Got carried away with our run of wins. On reflection we only look good when we are playing at 100% and other teams can't match our output. When they can then the technique of a few starts getting found out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Unless we have a decent budget in the summer, Europe would cripple us anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Miggys First Goal said: How far down the table do the European places go this season? Top five CL, 6th EL, 7th Conference League? Yep FA Cup winners get Europa League League Cup winners get Conference League If the winners of the above qualify via the league it then drops down Liverpool getting to the League Cup final works out better for us in terms of getting some form of European football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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