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All games are big now, but the Palace one for me is huge. Kept saying I’d rather have a cushion and manage that gap, and the Palace game if we win would do just that.

 

5 clear of Villa and Chelsea, where if Villa were to go out to PSG, the pressure is more on them needing to win which plays into our hands. Even if we were to lose, I don’t fancy Chelsea to beat Fulham away, so we can just open up a cushion again by beating Ipswich at home.

 

Essentially a win against Palace helps us put pressure on the others in upcoming games, rather than it falling on us.

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Famous last words, but didn’t realise Chelsea play Liverpool too before us. I could see them getting at best one point in their next 2 games, where after our game with them, we could be (even with a draw to Villa) 11 clear and them out of it :D 

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11 hours ago, gazza ladra said:

From a PSR stand point, who do want to miss the CL? 

 

I'm thinking it's Chelsea and Villa. Don't think missing out on CL will make any difference to City and I'm not convinced that Forset are a long-term threat.

 

Would hurt Villa with their wages to earnings problems and make it difficult for Chelsea to claim "fair market value" on some outrageous shirt sponsorship.

 

 

Villa. Would love their gamble on big money loan signings to backfire. Fair play to them for risking it though, looks like it will get them into Europe in some form, even if it's not CL.

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Villa could still win the FA Cup too. They've got a stacked league schedule (us, City, Fulham, Bournemouth, Spurs and Man U), PSG at home, Palace at Wembley and a possible FA Cup final too. All to be played in about the next 6 weeks

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We absolutely want Villa and Chelsea to miss out from a hard headed rivals perspective. If Chelsea snuck into the CL their ludicrous project might start to come together. And Villa are well ran peer and going from strength to strength, if they get CL again next season they’ll be very strong.

 

Am sure some people will hope Man City miss CL for the comedy value 

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

We're only 3 points behind our 22/23 tally in a season when a loud minority thought we should bin Howe. :lol:

Think we got 71-72 points that season.  I think we should get 68 points. Very different types of seasons though ending roughly in the same place. We got 60-63 points last season - no? 

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Would fancy us to beat Chelsea at home regardless of what they do in their other fixtures.

 

City have the easiest run in can't seem them missing out. 

 

Forest have started the wobble. We're the opposite and have won 18 out of the last 23 games.

 

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Forest sliding out and not get Europe would be wild for the position they were in.

 

Fair chance they lose a couple of top players, coupled with the peak from likes of Wood ending and the hangover going into next season and being back in the bottom half mix. 
 

Hope they get conference league at worse (if we get UCL). At least they would enjoy it as a club unless Chelsea who have treated it as a hindrance. 

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14 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

We absolutely want Villa and Chelsea to miss out from a hard headed rivals perspective. If Chelsea snuck into the CL their ludicrous project might start to come together. And Villa are well ran peer and going from strength to strength, if they get CL again next season they’ll be very strong.

 

Am sure some people will hope Man City miss CL for the comedy value 

 

Definitely would love both Villa and Chelsea to miss out, although I think one of them will get a place. Forest look like they might get cold feet right at the death, which was always a possibility.

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15 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

We absolutely want Villa and Chelsea to miss out from a hard headed rivals perspective. If Chelsea snuck into the CL their ludicrous project might start to come together. And Villa are well ran peer and going from strength to strength, if they get CL again next season they’ll be very strong.

 

Am sure some people will hope Man City miss CL for the comedy value 

City will live or die depending on the 115 charges. One season in or out of the CL with their baked in revenue streams won’t make a jot of difference.

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City will be fine. They have an academy which is a virtual cash-printing machine.

 

I expect them to go hard in the transfer market this summer even if they do miss out on CL football.

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39 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Forest sliding out and not get Europe would be wild for the position they were in.

 

They won't slide out of qualifying for Europe, and only need to keep two out of City, Villa and Chelsea behind them. They'll be very unlucky to finish 6th or 7th IMO.

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All ifs and buts, but they could be 6th level on points with Villa in 7th as they next play away to Spurs, who could have a new manager bounce :D 

 

Football can change quick.

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1 hour ago, WilliamPS said:

We absolutely want Villa and Chelsea to miss out from a hard headed rivals perspective. If Chelsea snuck into the CL their ludicrous project might start to come together. And Villa are well ran peer and going from strength to strength, if they get CL again next season they’ll be very strong.

 

Am sure some people will hope Man City miss CL for the comedy value 

 

Absolutely true. We really need Villa to miss out. Chelsea are screwed either way because of what they've going in financially, I don't think it'll matter if they get UCL as they could well get banned anyway and they're going to spend money whether they have it or not. But Villa getting it for two seasons in a row really sets them up for the next season and we don't want that.

 

It's a shame Fulham and Brighton have fallen away a little because that would be the ideal scenario, if one or both of them could finish above one or both of Chelsea and Villa.

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Fulham could be  king makers, got Chelsea home sunday then man city home final day, with a visit to villa in between.  

 

Wouldn't mind Forest winning cup but would rather City did than Palace or Villa, who I don't care for.  Villa having the distraction of the cup final may be beneficial however.  One thing is certain, any big 6 talk is all but redundant, barring an English europa win.  Spurs have had one CL season in about 5 years, chelsea have missed out last few and could do again.   Man United look like they won't qualify via the league anytime soon.

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20 hours ago, Skeletor said:

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My league table predictor. That's with us losing at Arsenal, Villa and Brighton.

You have Chelsea with a lot of points - 13 out of 18. Presume you have us beating them so that’s 13 out of 15. They’ve got a tough fixture list. I can’t see them getting anywhere near 67 points. Hopefully Villa will get bogged down with fixture congestion and we don’t need to go to the final couple of games.

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4 minutes ago, Novocastrian said:

You have Chelsea with a lot of points - 13 out of 18. Presume you have us beating them so that’s 13 out of 15. They’ve got a tough fixture list. I can’t see them getting anywhere near 67 points. Hopefully Villa will get bogged down with fixture congestion and we don’t need to go to the final couple of games.

 

I fancy Villa to finish above Chelsea looking at the fixtures and Chelsea's form.

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8 minutes ago, Novocastrian said:

You have Chelsea with a lot of points - 13 out of 18. Presume you have us beating them so that’s 13 out of 15. They’ve got a tough fixture list. I can’t see them getting anywhere near 67 points. Hopefully Villa will get bogged down with fixture congestion and we don’t need to go to the final couple of games.

Aye I'd be amazed if chelsea get 13 points from 6 games like. Fans toxic towards the manager who keeps having a pop back at them. Best player out of form and they've drew with Ipswich and Brentford last 2 games

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Things are toxic down at Chelsea, there seems to be unrest towards Maresca and their form isnt great. Villa are in good form and have squad depth but they have CL (which they may soon be out of) and FA Cup semi finals and have had a long season. Forest have started to falter recently and have never been in this position, they've been over performing in relation to their stats all season - so make of that what you will. Man City are still quite inconsistent by their standards, but have had a much better second half of the season

 

Having said that, all four are more than capable of putting together a string of results and a sustained push for CL.  We have to beat whats in front of us essentially. 

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