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  1. 1. How likely are we to finish top four this season? 0 = nee chance, 5 = can’t call it, 10 = nailed on marra



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It won't happen but if Man United somehow finished 4th it would show how poor this league actually is in terms of quality and how badly injuries have fucked us this season.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

It won't happen but if Man United somehow finished 4th it would show how poor this league actually is in terms of quality and how badly injuries have fucked us this season.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure how anyone could look at the PL and suggest it lacks quality. :lol:

 

It's got about 9 sides who would compete for titles in any other league in the world, given a good run.

 

It's just highly competitive and its as easy to lose half a dozen as it is to string a few wins together.

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18 minutes ago, Geogaddi said:

It won't happen but if Man United somehow finished 4th it would show how poor this league actually is in terms of quality and how badly injuries have fucked us this season.

 

 

 

Were this did come from? :D

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7 minutes ago, wormy said:

 

God knows their formula and 'difficult' depends on what teams are playing for but I still have hope. 

Our hardest games are Spurs at home and Man U away. Maybe Brighton at home/Fulham away.

 

If we get it right tactically we can grind out 7th.

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3 months ago I would have fancied us to win pretty much all them games barring Man United away, now when I look through them all Sheff United is the only one I am 100% confident on, mad how quickly it has all changed . 

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Still all to play for when you look at the other teams fixtures.

 

Brighton still have to play the current top four, us, Man Utd and Chelsea.

 

Wolves still have to play the current top four and West Ham.

 

West Ham still have to play us, City, Liverpool, Spurs, Wolves and are still in Europe.

 

Chelsea still have Arsenal, Man U, Brighton, Villa and West Ham.

 

7th is there for the taking, Brighton, WHU and Wolves all have horrific run ins and Chelsea's isn't much better. Five wins and a draw or two may actually be enough.....

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On 22/03/2024 at 17:40, Geogaddi said:

3 months ago I would have fancied us to win pretty much all them games barring Man United away, now when I look through them all Sheff United is the only one I am 100% confident on, mad how quickly it has all changed . 

This....and even Sheff Utd I'd be suspect in given that we're NUFC.

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Yeah, you just can't really look at any remaining games this season and think yeah, should definitely be 3 points there. Start of the season, or start of December, you look at the follow successive home fixtures:

 

Forest 

Man City

Luton

Bournemouth

 

And you'd think there would be half a chance for 10 points. Or if we lost to Man City, as most do, win the rest, or at the very worst, win 2 and draw 1, to pick up a minimum of 7 points. We couldn't win any of them and ended up with 2 points. 2 of the easiest games on paper of the 38 (in Luton and Forest at home), certainly both in the top 6 if you were putting all 38 fixtures in a list and ranking them. Now we have picked up some decent wins in that period, like Villa away, and you could perhaps argue the Forest away win almost negates the home loss, but with our injuries and inconsistency, there's literally no matches that look like bankers, perhaps Sheff U apart, as someone mentioned earlier.

 

 

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Took away the smaller fixtures just to look at the bigger games each team has left. Couldn't be bothered adding Wolves or Chelsea. Obviously we have our other handicaps to deal with but at least this favours us.

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Tremendous set of results for us today. Everton, Fulham and Spurs to come before a two week break due to Man U being in the FA cup semis.

 

Ideally 7 pts from those three games, but even 4 or 5 wouldn't be a disaster.

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May be a silly question but I was reading that there’s a chance the PL gets 5 champions league spots this season. Does that mean 6th and 7th will be in Europa? And 8th in conference? If a team already qualified for the CL wins the FA cup, what happens? 
 

id love us to save this cursed season by having Europa league football at st James’ next season. Would also help attract better players. Watching the Manchester United match closely today. Would be huge if they drop points here as we have 12 GD lead on them heading into the final 9 matches. 

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5 minutes ago, Sufi said:

May be a silly question but I was reading that there’s a chance the PL gets 5 champions league spots this season. Does that mean 6th and 7th will be in Europa? And 8th in conference? If a team already qualified for the CL wins the FA cup, what happens? 
 

id love us to save this cursed season by having Europa league football at st James’ next season. Would also help attract better players. Watching the Manchester United match closely today. Would be huge if they drop points here as we have 12 GD lead on them heading into the final 9 matches. 

It's looking like that. Regarding the FA cup, I think only Chelsea winning it would change things. For example, if we finished 7th and Chelsea 8th or lower but won the cup, they'd get EL and we'd get the ECL spot. 

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

Nothing between 7th and 13th, could be a bit of a free for all from Bournemouth up.


I hadn’t looked at the table in a long time and had no idea how close we were/are to being 13th instead of 8th. :lol: 

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Brentford taking something off Man Utd would be nice just to keep 6th on the table for a bit longer.

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End of March comparison against expected points total for sixth; taking into account relative difficulty of fixtures. 

 

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We sit three points below where we should be for average PL season sixth place finish. We need to find 19 points from 9 games (2.1 ppg, which is pretty much what we amassed in the 36 games in 2022 calendar year) to be in with a shout of sixth. We'd also need Man Utd to drop below 1.6 ppg (can't see it...) plus West Ham and Brighton (also Wolves and Chelsea) to continue pretty much as as they have been/not mirror, or better, our upturn in form.  

 

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Still think we will struggle for top 7 with the way we defend. It really is a massive concern with the amount of goals we concede, and with how easy we are to score against.

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