pubteam Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 14 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: We're running away with the title with plenty of games to spare. And Gary Neville compared our injuries to man u and spurs, not even close mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, pubteam said: And Gary Neville compared our injuries to man u and spurs, not even close mate. I'd say they are pretty similar to be fair in terms of impactful players missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, pubteam said: And Gary Neville compared our injuries to man u and spurs, not even close mate. Yeah, I'm beyond sick of hearing "they've had injuries but..." It's all a bit "but how was the rest of the play Mrs Lincoln?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, TRC said: I'd say they are pretty similar to be fair in terms of impactful players missing. Not really, especially when you add Tonali too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Joelinton7 said: Injury is our identity Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing. Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season. There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, HawK said: Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing. Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season. There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park. Klopp did the same thing at Dortmund and Liverpool... with his ultra press, lung bursting playing style. Both went off the rails when players were burnt out but he has managed to build a stronger squad that he can rotate or bring in quality youngsters. We are not there yet with either the squad or the academy graduates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, HawK said: Came here to say pretty much exactly the same thing. Training with 100% intensity is fine if you're just playing 38 PL games and a domestic cup game here and there, and able to take a rest when other teams are playing in Europe. But with our CL commitments this season, I think many of us were quite rightly asking the question before the season started as to how Howe was going to approach this season as anyone could see training with and playing with 100% intensity every single time, with our full court press style, wasn't going to last. I'm not surprised at all with how bad it's been. Correlation does not mean causation, there's other factors as well of course, but playing nearly the same unchanged XI every game and not protecting players when given the opportunity is something I'm disappointed with Howe about. Using your full squad of players is basics at the high levels we're aiming for. There's definitely some aspects to squad management that Howe needs to go away and take stock of for next season. There's a reason that the best teams in the country just don't simply out-run their opponents like we often did last season, because they can't do it every game with the schedules they have to keep. If we're going to mix it up with the big boys, we need a quality-focused approach rather than simply running teams off the park. Basically 1 domino fell in Barnes vs Sheff United, and then everything started collapsing coupled with Tonali's ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Hopefully wrong but just heard seven months FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Yay…. wouldn’t surprise me one fucking bit. Edited March 12 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Paully said: Hopefully wrong but just heard seven months FFS Source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, TRC said: I'd say they are pretty similar to be fair in terms of impactful players missing. Not sure I agree Tonali season Big Joe 2/3rds Willock - 2/3rds Botman - 3 months Barnes - 5 months Pope - 4 months Targett - 5 months Anderson - 4 months Isak/Wilson - every other week Gordon - 6 months it’s been relentless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Paully said: Hopefully wrong but just heard seven months FFS I wish he could at least get pre season in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, Paully said: Hopefully wrong but just heard seven months FFS What exactly did we do wrong to deserve this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I think that is bs. It normally takes a couple of days for the swelling to go down before you can get a scan and a result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 58 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Klopp did the same thing at Dortmund and Liverpool... with his ultra press, lung bursting playing style. Both went off the rails when players were burnt out but he has managed to build a stronger squad that he can rotate or bring in quality youngsters. We are not there yet with either the squad or the academy graduates But going hand in hand with the high intensity press is an ability to keep the ball when it's won, we don't do that, we just don't have the quality. So the amount of out-of-possession running is multiplied by our lack of technical ability on the ball. Liverpool and Dortmund have and had much greater quality across their squad to retain the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, TRC said: Source? Weird doom mongers on Twitter, I'd bet my house on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: What exactly did we do wrong to deserve this season? Dared to dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Mills and Boon said: Weird doom mongers on Twitter, I'd bet my house on it He’s got contacts at the club tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 My guess/gut feeling is that it’s similar to Kamara’s injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 months that's ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, aussiemag said: I think that is bs. It normally takes a couple of days for the swelling to go down before you can get a scan and a result? That was my thought. Horrific news if true though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Rumours come from NUFC Gallowgate from what I seen on twitter earlier. God knows if he's ITK or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Rumours come from NUFC Gallowgate from what I seen on twitter earlier. God knows if he's ITK or not He is not ITK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 omg this is getting a joke 6 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Klopp did the same thing at Dortmund and Liverpool... with his ultra press, lung bursting playing style. Both went off the rails when players were burnt out but he has managed to build a stronger squad that he can rotate or bring in quality youngsters. We are not there yet with either the squad or the academy graduates Key with Klopp, they played in bursts. Like they would have a relentless press for 15-20 mins in a game, then change it and either sit off the ball or control possession. We can’t drop off (just concede) and can’t control possession well. Two areas need improving that can go alongside a press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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