Heron Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Agree with this fully. The goal should’ve stood. Wilson didn’t do enough for it to be a foul. The second penalty was an awful decision too. Haven't seen the second one yet like but seemed harsh to me if it was given from in the ground. But I used to play CB so perhaps there's a defensive bias there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The problem is not with the player or the referee. It's the rule. It's clearly a foul even if you might argue Gordon did draw it. But the foul and the position it was in in no way justify a free kick at goal from 12 yards. At best Gordon keeps the ball in play and is able to make his way towards the corner flag and maybe send in a cross. A penalty is just not a proportionate response to a foul that prevents that. I'd like two degrees of foul in the penalty area. One results in a traditional penalty. The other in an ice hockey style penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It was a foul in the box. It's a pen, it's always been a pen. Brentford were dirty cunts and got what they deserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnolan13 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: The problem is not with the player or the referee. It's the rule. It's clearly a foul even if you might argue Gordon did draw it. But the foul and the position it was in in no way justify a free kick at goal from 12 yards. At best Gordon keeps the ball in play and is able to make his way towards the corner flag and maybe send in a cross. A penalty is just not a proportionate response to a foul that prevents that. I'd like two degrees of foul in the penalty area. One results in a traditional penalty. The other in an ice hockey style penalty. fuck me dont give refs extra rules to fuck up, they can barely manage the ones they have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, STM said: It was a foul in the box. It's a pen, it's always been a pen. Brentford were dirty cunts and got what they deserved. Agree this this. Overall they got what they deserved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Jordan said: Bruno’s today was pathetically immature. Didn’t get the foul he wanted so 10 seconds later goes and kicks the guy in front of the ref. I've had a few of them over the years, something you just feel like you're getting nothing, and just want to kick someone because of it. Pure frustration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, STM said: It was a foul in the box. It's a pen, it's always been a pen. Brentford were dirty cunts and got what they deserved. This for me. I loathe the one in the box where a player gets a shot away but the defender catches the attacker late, anywhere else on the pitch a free kick is given for a late challenge, in the box it's deemed ok because the player got the shot away. Edited September 17, 2023 by Tisd09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: The ball was still in play, and the GK tackles Gordon without playing the ball nor getting anywhere near it. Pretty much as obvious a foul as you’ll ever see I have no idea how anyone is suggesting it anything other than a pen, saying he bought it or its "clever" suggest its borderline. For me it's as stonewall as it gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, M1tche said: I have no idea how anyone is suggesting it anything other than a pen, saying he bought it or its "clever" suggest its borderline. For me it's as stonewall as it gets. Agreed, the second one was a joke mind but common sense eventually overruled but this was obvious. Keeper is a total idiot for making it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, M1tche said: I have no idea how anyone is suggesting it anything other than a pen, saying he bought it or its "clever" suggest its borderline. For me it's as stonewall as it gets. Without the keeper being where he was and diving in, Gordon has a chance to control the ball under less pressure and keep possession. Gordon gets to the ball before the keeper and does the only thing he can do in that situation. Foul and penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Gordon has no intention of getting the ball. He’s trying to get a pen. Even Shearer admitted it was super soft. I’ll take it. But that’s one that’s gone in our favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Gordon has no intention of getting the ball. He’s trying to get a pen. Even Shearer admitted it was super soft. I’ll take it. But that’s one that’s gone in our favour. Watch it from here in slow motion, the keeper is committed and lunges to get the ball but Gordon gets there first, it's not like he's just standing there and Gordon runs into him https://youtu.be/eRI6MZmQSlg?t=491 The way he turns his body is to be able to keep the ball in, if he doesn't turn like that he could only kick it out of play or back heel it straight to the keeper. he doesn't get the chance to because the keeper takes him out. Edited September 17, 2023 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 There’s no changing my opinion. Gordon is looking for a penalty. He engineers the contact. Gk falls for it. Ref falls for it. if it happened against us I’d be fuming. I’d also be disappointed that the GK have the ref a decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) The goalie literally wiped Gordon out , not sure why it’s being debated . Edited September 17, 2023 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Are we turning into RAWK? soft pen and if it was given against I'd be saying soft pen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It’s irrelevant if it’s a pen or not tbh, because Wilson’s goal should never have been disallowed beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: There’s no changing my opinion. Gordon is looking for a penalty. He engineers the contact. Gk falls for it. Ref falls for it. if it happened against us I’d be fuming. I’d also be disappointed that the GK have the ref a decision. The keeper sees Gordon coming sprints six yards and then lunges into that contact. Whether Gordon hoped for the keeper to be daft enough to do that or not, it's still a foul. Edited September 17, 2023 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: It’s irrelevant if it’s a pen or not tbh, because Wilson’s goal should never have been disallowed beforehand. While I think it was a pen, it's a 50/50 decision, and I don't think the ref gives it if he hadn't made the mistake on the disallowed goal. Either way, it's smart play from Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I thought it was a nailed on penalty and fair play to Gordon in his determination that won it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, 1964 said: Are we turning into RAWK? soft pen and if it was given against I'd be saying soft pen A soft pen is still a pen. 20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: There’s no changing my opinion. Gordon is looking for a penalty. He engineers the contact. Gk falls for it. Ref falls for it. if it happened against us I’d be fuming. I’d also be disappointed that the GK have the ref a decision. There's a fucking surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: A soft pen is still a pen. There's a fucking surprise. I’m one of the few people on here that says ‘fair’ if someone else has a reasoned argument that counters my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s irrelevant if it’s a pen or not tbh, because Wilson’s goal should never have been disallowed beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Displayname said: Good old fashioned crybaby. Yuuurs, get those narratives in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 hours ago, davidnolan13 said: fuck me dont give refs extra rules to fuck up, they can barely manage the ones they have now. True, but imagine how exciting it would be! Also the guy fouled has to do the ice hockey style penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I’m one of the few people on here that says ‘fair’ if someone else has a reasoned argument that counters my own. No. You're one of the few people who quotes yourself. And you even somehow tinge humility with hubris here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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