McDog Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, jonny1403 said: Well exactly, so why on earth would the club be able to predict that we would have reached a final last summer when we haven't for 18 years You don't need to predict it. Just have a policy beforehand and send out "In the extremely unlikely event we reach a cup final ticket's shall be distributed using the following process........" In fairness, a cup final probably never occurred to them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, LFEE said: I don’t think any club is arrogant enough to confirm Cup Final ticket criteria before it’s reached the final. Maybe I’m wrong and there are those that do? If you are ever hoping to get a cup final ticket you should always be in the mindset of giving yourself the best chance and not wait on others to. So if you’ve a ST for example and not used it to buy your seats for earlier games you were always running a risk and going forward you will know that risk is real. I don't know if any other club do it. My point was that it wasn't clear that you needed to attend cup games to attend a cup final - there's a whole heap of both confirmation and recency bias in assuming this was clear to fans or that fans should have guessed that this was the case. As I've said before my family and I live in Kent, so travelling up for midweek cup games wasn't necessarily that doable, but given we've had 3 season ticket for over 30 years and each season ticket has nearly 100 loyalty points on it, I thought we had a decent shot. Had the ticketing policy been made clear, we'd have bought tickets for cup games and just not turned up. Quite frankly the club could have used a variety of different criteria - loyalty points, length of time you've had a season ticket etc - and any criteria they choose would have had its merits. I don't think it would be arrogant to create a policy in the ST T&Cs to make it clear how cup final tickets are allocated, but we can agree to disagree on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hughesy said: I don't think it would be strange to inform season ticket holders how tickets will be allocated before a season starts. Could literally include a line in an email - not a particularly onerous undertaking. Not everyone is going to reviewing the ticketing allocations of other clubs and extrapolating NUFC's policy. Until you know your route to the final it be very difficult. For example we could’ve got there without a single home game barring 1 leg of the semi or vice versa and only a single 1 leg away game. The criteria would’ve been different. Still though those that went to the most cup games along with having a ST would still be in the first Periods. Just it might of favoured slightly different people on that occasion. Especially if they’d been mostly away games. As everyone with a ST will likely buy a Semi ticket whereas the earlier rounds would’ve generally been purchased by the same away following in general. If that makes sense ? Edited February 15, 2023 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Until you know your route to the final it be very difficult. For example we could’ve got there without a single home game barring 1 leg of the semi or vice versa and only a single 1 leg away game. The criteria would’ve been different. Still though those that went to the most cup games along with having a ST would still be in the first Periods. Just it might of favoured slightly different people on that occasion. Especially if they’d been mostly away games. That's fine - the policy could be literally as vague as "cup attendance will be a determining factor in obtaining tickets to any related cup final". That would leave everyone better informed than they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Maybe people need to suck it up ? Just a thought There’s no true test on loyalty , there’s no way that’s fair to everyone just build a bridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I think people are probably allowed a day or two of airing their frustrations with the process, given how long people have been waiting for a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hughesy said: That's fine - the policy could be literally as vague as "cup attendance will be a determining factor in obtaining tickets to any related cup final". That would leave everyone better informed than they were. Well if you didn’t think that would be the case I’m not sure you’d be the type to read the small print of a byline sent out by the club. Sorry I don’t mean that to be harsh so apologies if it comes over that way. I’d say it would be a given amongst most football supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Ha ha - I'm a lawyer. Small print is my day job... I mean - it is what it is. I can't do anything about it now, but I'll know for next time. To be honest, it didn't even cross my mind that cup attendance would be a factor until I saw something on twitter the day before the semi about what Liverpool did. It didn't cross my dad's mind or my brother's, so I don't think it's that uncommon. And I don't recall it being a factor for the two previous finals I went to (albeit I was a kid then so I wasn't buying the tickets!). Edited February 15, 2023 by Hughesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LFEE Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Hughesy said: Ha ha - I'm a lawyer. Small print is my day job... I mean - it is what it is. I can't do anything about it now. I'll know for next time. Exactly. And the overall positive we can at least all take is hopefully there will be a next time and even a next time after that if we all stick behind the club and it’s current owners. No guarantees in football but hopefully our chances will increase compared to previous two decades. Not fancy treating yourself to a club Wembley on this occasion? Must be in the ball park of a Lawyer ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just seen a Facebook friend trying to get John the chap a ticket for next week Hes up there with the "loyalist " newcastle fan I know tbh Madness if he's not going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) That's what I expected, knew nobody in the membership pots had much of a chance. It's a bit like the general sale periods, token gesture is nice but don't expect to actually get one. Edited February 15, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Have a hotel room in North London the night of the final which I’m not using anymore. Happy to pass it on, please PM for details. Also, a train ticket for the Monday morning, leaving King’s Cross at 9am Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: That's what I expected, knew nobody in the membership pots had much of a chance. It's a bit like the general sale periods, token gesture is nice but don't expect to actually get one. Yet it appears those with STs who haven’t got one are the most unhappy. Just shows it’s a thankless task ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Not sure if shared already… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Never seen the Trust spring into action so quickly, there must have been an opportunity for Hurst to rub shoulders with club officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, LFEE said: Yet it appears those with STs who haven’t got one are the most unhappy. Just shows it’s a thankless task ? Guess much more of an expectation if you have a ST. I’m not frustrated for myself as such, I never expected one. Just think it’s an interesting point about so many fans not having a chance from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 what a bizarre looking donut chart that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I know people selling it through reselling websites are terrible people, but where do I stand morally buying through a reseller? Would that make me a terrible person? Thinking of biting the bullet, yes its expensive but so were all the away days I've been to. I've been to Plymouth away midweek (the longest journey in English professional football.), flown across Europe (after calling in sick) to see an unimportant premier league match at West Ham, had a season ticket despite living hundreds of miles away for years. Gave it up out as a personal protest at MA, despite knowing it would mean losing my loyalty points which I wanted to cling on to. Given this, is buying an over inflated ticket so bad? Its not like Its going to a random punter, I've put in the miles, attended the soul-searching defeats (including to lower league clubs in the cub and the hard-to-get-to grounds in the Championship) and lived and breathed this club all my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 No chance I'd watch the final in the Man U end ,rather be in the pub. I was in with the Sheff U lot at Old Trafford and got gobbed on and a smack in the back of the head when we scored ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big River said: what a bizarre looking donut chart that is My brain couldn't have comprehended 97% without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Big River said: what a bizarre looking donut chart that is Alex tried to eat it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, gdm said: So at a rough guess that’s probably about 800/900 tickets spread across p5, p6 and p7. Incredibly lucky if you’ve managed to get one from anywhere in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, LFEE said: Not sure if shared already… manu have had years of succes, cup final and champions league until very recently. i think the gripes are coming from ST holders for the amount of shit they had to put up with especially during the ashley years. finally the pay-off comes and some of them didnt get a ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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