SUPERTOON Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 A few clubs now seemed against it but all but one voted in the new rules. Doesn’t make much sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: The Premier League was built on a free market and you had more titles shared across clubs than any other major league. Financial restrictions based on income are no good for competition. La Liga is completely skewed towards Barca and Real in Spain and look how dull that is. PL fast becoming like the Bundesliga (save for this season), only even more dull with an established top 6 most seasons. The wage cap is hurting Barcelona's competitiveness. But it might actually be helping them be sustainable tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, madras said: Why do you think the points deductions have only came about since the mention of one ? The Premier League has definitely being trying to behave more like a regulator since talk of legislation came about. Could be convenient timing, but they charged City the day the white paper was introduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: A few clubs now seemed against it but all but one voted in the new rules. Doesn’t make much sense. Is it not the case that all but one voted to change the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Ich bin ein Forester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Just making it up as they go along. Pretty sure Everton were £220m over the limit. The £20m figure trotted out is a bit misleading iirc. Either way its a mess and would hate to be the one sorting it out in todays legal world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Is there a spreadsheet anywhere for each EPL clubs total debt ? Is that not more of a reason for concern than 3 season losses if an owner covers it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I for one can’t wait for his bread making updates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, PCW1983 said: Is it not the case that all but one voted to change the rules. Aye, and the new rules seem worse than the last ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Collymore absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, madras said: Ich bin ein Forester He's basically written half of the club's statement there, hasn't he? PL are screwed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Collymore absolutely spot on. His dates are off by a bit but he's otherwise nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Collymore absolutely spot on. It's what I was getting at the other day about the club going public with its argument. The more voices shouting this, and its quite irrefutable, the more chance something gets done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Aye, and the new rules seem worse than the last ones. Said it before, but I'll say it again -- there aren't any new rules yet. They only voted to move towards new rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Aye, and the new rules seem worse than the last ones. There are no new rules yet edit: what the guy above me said Edited March 18 by Jack27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, madras said: It's what I was getting at the other day about the club going public with its argument. The more voices shouting this, and its quite irrefutable, the more chance something gets done. Aye. My assumption has been either that we're genuinely not bothered and happy to play by the rules, or that we prefer to maintain a dignified and politically expedient silence while there's a chance that other people will fight the fight for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I'd imagine the stuff going on behind the scenes right now is proper fascinating like. Alliances and backstabbing and whatnot. Somewhat related, rumour on golf twitter is that Yasir and Tiger Woods had a secret meeting yesterday on Tiger's fishing boat ahead of a PGA/LIV meeting today at PGA headquarters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, OpenC said: Aye. My assumption has been either that we're genuinely not bothered and happy to play by the rules, or that we prefer to maintain a dignified and politically expedient silence while there's a chance that other people will fight the fight for us I've always thought we were biding our time, waiting in particular for the Man City fall out, but now seems like a decent time to start pushing the argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Said it before, but I'll say it again -- there aren't any new rules yet. They only voted to move towards new rules. Yeah that’s what I was referring to, and all reports suggest the possible new ones are going to be worse for everyone outside the big 6 than before. Seems strange then that 19 out of 20 clubs would vote for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 If they want a squad cap that is equal for everyone and is set to be somewhere in the middle of what would be allowed under PSR/FFP then I'm ok with that. At least the playing field would be more level then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Yeah that’s what I was referring to, and all reports suggest the possible new ones are going to be worse for everyone outside the big 6 than before. Seems strange then that 19 out of 20 clubs would vote for it. It's not though. The current rules have the Premier League handing down points deductions based on no pre-defined penalties. That's an awful system no matter the regulations a club needs to adhere to. And, in our case (and anyone with European ambitions), if the new rules do end up mirroring UEFA's in some way then we'll need to abide by them anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) Forest deducted 4points for over-spend that probably ensued 1 more and quite probably at least a 2nd more season of PL money at the expense of two other clubs who miss out on that money they might appeal even that yet it isn't reflective of Everton's but they played ball more, so that's not arbitrary or anything sold a home-grown talent to comply by the rules (how romantic) though these rules aside they had no need or desire to, but not by an early enough date to Brentford where they would have got less money but maybe have avoided a deduction all because they speculated to accumalate and won bucking the trend of teams going straight back down and because some clubs dont want to be challenged we've got this bureaucratic dystopian bullshit in football Edited March 18 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Said a few weeks ago, we're working towards breaking this system behind closed doors. NDM being involved just solidifies that for me. Our team is slowly building. We started off on day 1 as a solo entity, just narrowly getting through after 18 months of illegal blocking, and no one wanted to know. In fact it was said no PL teams would deal with us. I bet its a very different setup now. We'll have seeds planted everywhere, and it looks like its all coming together and on the surface, we've said and done fuck all, and kept compliant, but we're tearing the PL inside out. I cannot wait to piss on its corpse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 26 minutes ago, Abacus said: He's basically written half of the club's statement there, hasn't he? PL are screwed. Forest statement is in line with his opinions on what FFP is about. https://x.com/nickdemarco_/status/1735644167521341793?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 The club did very well at keeping the spotlight on this during the transfer window. Eales, Ashworth and Howe all made statements to the effect of "we've got an insane injury crisis, but our hands are tied because of PSR". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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