Bournemouth 1-1 Newcastle United (11/02/2023)

[nufcnick]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Aye, Isak will be shit forever.

Christ, dramatic much 

[Shadow Puppets]

Poor performance but all round bad day.

 

Injuries to Wilson, Maxi, Almiron, Willock and Joelinton’s card. Just fucking miserable.

[Kanj]

Stop sugar coating this and call it for what it was, we were poor. 

[Gallowgate Toon]

Think this is a general consequence at the lack of rotation we've seen and something Howe will need to figure out next season, imo. Feels like players were figuring eachother out in the attacking lineup.

 

We miss Bruno when we're the dominant possession side.

 

[et tu brute]

And people were questioning why low marks were being giving for the January window. That team looks totally shagged out. 

[Gawalls]

5 minutes ago, GlenMag said:

I dunno about anyone else, but I think a point away against a side fighting for their lives is always a good point, even better when your squad is getting thinner by the game

What about 3  points against 3 teams fighting for their lives with the Leeds and West Ham?

 

 If you don’t take them 3 points then

[gazza ladra]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

You have to be honest and call a spade a spade, that was absolutely shit. We look knackered.

 

Pope: 7

Trippier: 6.5

Schär: 5.5

Botman: 5

Burn: 4

Joelinton: 6

Longstaff: 5

Willock: 5

Almiron: 6

Isak: 5.5

ASM: 5

Gordon: 6

Brutal, but mostly accurate. Too high for Gordon, Trippier, and ASM. Burn really was poor.

[worthy]

Pathetic showing honestly.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

Just now, Kanji said:

Stop sugar coating this and call it for what it was, we were poor. 

Nobody is suggesting otherwise, but can you manage the unthinkable and cast your mind back just over 12 months ago and remember what used to happen to us when the team as a whole was poor?
 

Getting a point away and not getting beat when you’re bang out of form is the sign of a good organised team. 
 

it’s as if the fact that our creative output drops massively when Bruno is out of the team is coming as a shock to some on here

[Guest reefatoon]

We are still 4th top with only 1 defeat still. Been a fucking tremendous season and no wonder the players look shattered. Shows how much we have come on as a team when we can still avoid losing games when we are not at our best. I’ll take a point away from home against anyone all day long.

[KaKa]

With Bruno out we just end up with too many people that don't use the ball well enough in the final third.

 

Pushing Joelinton back to the number 6 spot actually limits our creativity going forward as he does often get involved in creating good passages of play with others that leads to chances being created.

 

Having ASM, Almiron, Willock and Longstaff supporting the striker is just too infuriating. At least one of them is going to do something daft to mess things up almost every single time. 

 

Gordon improved things and has to start next game for one of those lot. Might also have to play Longstaff deep and push Joelinton into one of the more forward positions.

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Think this is a general consequence at the lack of rotation we've seen and something Howe will need to figure out next season, imo. Feels like players were figuring eachother out in the attacking lineup.

 

We miss Bruno when we're the dominant possession side.

 

We have fuck all squad depth though. Look at the options we pick off the bench. Murphy who offers nothing, then Anderson who needs a year or so out to a Championship side before he can attempt to make the step up.

[gazza ladra]

7 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Honestly think we need to lose to get rid of the unbeaten tag. 

Liverpool will oblige soon enough.

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Poor performance but all round bad day.

 

Injuries to Wilson, Maxi, Almiron, Willock and Joelinton’s card. Just fucking miserable.

The second paragraph is worse than the result and performance, for me. 
 

We just don’t have Premier League quality back ups to replace any of them long term. 
 

Joelinton will be a huge miss for 2 games. Whoever they end up being against. 
 

Willock’s looked like a hammy. Which isn’t ideal for someone who relies on pace and you’d imagine will be a few weeks, at least. 

ASM is made of glass and gets injured too often. So expect him to be out for a while. 
 

Almiron? Fuck knows. Kept holding his wrist. Hopefully just a slight sprain. 

 

[Scotty66]

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Our issues definitely aren't ones that are solved by bringing in one or two players, the entire team looks shattered.

 

This is the downside to high intensity, high pressing. Works absolutely brilliantly when everyone is fit and fresh but long term after months of doing it, it takes it out of you. 

 

There's not many teams who can do it week in week out without going through a stage where they look shattered, or at worst just losing that tempo completely. 

 

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Scotty66

[gazza ladra]

Wow, ASM doing his best to make Joelinton look better as a forward.

[David Edgar]

8 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

Team average 5.5 or so, and Howe 4? You think the players did better than expected based on Howe set up the team and managed the game?

 

No, don't be deliberately dumb.

 

I think lots of players under-performed.  Some played well.  Howe didn't do a good job today.

 

  

[Cronky]

Bournemouth didn't look great technically, but they are athletic and at times they were too quick for us.

 

Gordon has to start next week. We need his pace and movement. Isak played better as the game went on, partly because he was able to roam around a bit, with more players getting into the penalty area.

 

Dan Burn is really struggling, and he nearly gave the game away at the end. 

 

Still, there was a time not long ago when drawing away was a decent result.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said:

The second paragraph is worse than the result and performance, for me. 
 

We just don’t have Premier League quality back ups to replace any of them long term. 
 

Joelinton will be a huge miss for 2 games. Whoever they end up being against. 
 

Willock’s looked like a hammy. Which isn’t ideal for someone who relies on pace and you’d imagine will be a few weeks, at least. 

ASM is made of glass and gets injured too often. So expect him to be out for a while. 
 

Almiron? Fuck knows. Kept holding his wrist. Hopefully just a slight sprain. 

 

Almrion had his hand stood on I think.

[Aiston]

1 minute ago, reefatoon said:

We are still 4th top with only 1 defeat still. Been a fucking tremendous season and no wonder the players look shattered. Shows how much we have come on as a team when we can still avoid losing games when we are not at our best. I’ll take a point away from home against anyone all day long.

 

Totally has.

 

But every season, even the ones we've been fucking awful in...we'd be criticising the team for failing to beat; Leeds, Palace, West Ham and Bournemouth out of the last 6 games.

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, McDog said:

It's not the damn transfer window. That was a poor effort overall. Eddie needs to regroup these lads or they will get run over by Liverpool without a doubt.

The transfer window arent solely to blame for this game for sure. But this game highlights that getting rid of squad players without replacing them is gonna punish us hard going forward. Most of the players seems exhausted.

Its kinda incredible considering we are fighting for a champions league spot.

[Gazzaschicken]

Let's have some perspective here. In the last 12 seasons in the prem we have only finished in the top 8 once. Never lost less than 10 games in a season in the past 20 years in the prem. And only finished on 50+ points once in the past 15 prem seasons. 41 points off 22 games is like the best we have performed in 2 decades and still people are having kittens over a draw away from home. Onwards and upwards

 

 

[KaKa]

9 minutes ago, Cronky said:

Bournemouth didn't look great technically, but they are athletic and at times they were too quick for us.

 

Gordon has to start next week. We need his pace and movement. Isak played better as the game went on, partly because he was able to roam around a bit, with more players getting into the penalty area.

 

Dan Burn is really struggling, and he nearly gave the game away at the end. 

 

Still, there was a time not long ago when drawing away was a decent result.

 

This definitely didn't help us today. 

 

They managed to bring in some really quick athletic players in the window and they are indeed far more of a headache to deal with because of it.

 

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by KaKa

[christ]

Absolutely dog shit today like. Probably the worst we’ve played this season.
 

Not sure whether it’s fatigue or players just losing a bit of confidence in each other. We’re increasingly ponderous around the box and teams know they can just dig in and crowd us out because everyone’s looking for a six yard sideways pass that is going to unlock something. It’s not working so we’re making mistakes and teams aren’t as frightened of us as they were before Christmas.

We’re a team in transition so it’s not surprising that performances have dipped. We are overly reliant on a few genuinely class players to pull everyone up a level or two, and that’s worn off a bit.

 

 

[mighty__mag]

Of late or even post world cup we've been a bit shite, I've noticed there seems now to be a heavy tendency for players to switch positions quite a lot during games, it seems to be and looks confusing at times, and you wonder what are they trying to do? Its been more obvious in games with Joelinton and Joe Willock constantly swapping in and out, one out wide the other inside, then they switch, but today we had three players on the right wing, it just looked confused. I'm not sure if they're over complicating things? Maybe just back to basics without all the interchange, ASM doesn't look anything like the player who terrorised Man City, Miggys gone from goal machine to Miggy of old, fair play for his goal today, I'm also not sure what Isak was supposed to be doing, sure it's not his fault, he just struggled. 

 

I'd like Eddie to just simplify things a bit, pick the best players for the best positions, and let them do their thing, just to get back on a bit of a winning run.

 

Not knocking Eddie at all, he's done brilliant, but we were much more of a threat pre world cup.