Lenny Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 10 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: I also think people are forgetting how good he was last season, he was as rated as Mainoo until the injury. He's nowhere near as good as Mainoo IMO. He was thrust into the team out of necessity at a time when he was ready for drip-fed exposure to the first team. It was fairly apparent he wasn't ready for a regular starting role quite quickly and he would often be the most invisible of the three we had in the midfield. It was basically Bruno largely carrying all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Think of the PSR headroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Hopefully him bulking up helps with his previous lack of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Did we send his older brother out on loan? He looked pretty decent at pre season IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nobody said: Did we send his older brother out on loan? He looked pretty decent at pre season IMO Went to Newport Played 72 minutes on September 3rd and never been seen again for them from what I can find Looks like he picked up an injury. Not sure of what or how bad? Edited October 16 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 10 minutes ago, Likelylad said: Hopefully him bulking up helps with his previous lack of pace. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, BonesJones said: No. Hopefully his increase in lean body mass improves his speed, quickness, and agility to be more precise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 38 minutes ago, jack j said: Went to Newport Played 72 minutes on September 3rd and never been seen again for them from what I can find Looks like he picked up an injury. Not sure of what or how bad? Was a bad injury unfortunately. So out for a little while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Lenny said: He's nowhere near as good as Mainoo IMO. He was thrust into the team out of necessity at a time when he was ready for drip-fed exposure to the first team. It was fairly apparent he wasn't ready for a regular starting role quite quickly and he would often be the most invisible of the three we had in the midfield. It was basically Bruno largely carrying all three. I think you're underselling him quite a bit here. He was very good in that right-sided 8 role he initially played. I'm not saying he's as good as Mainoo, but bare in mind Miley is a year younger. You'll not find many 17 year olds that have done what he did. He's clearly a very special talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 It was less than ideal circumstances he was thrust into, 2 games a week, usually high stakes and generally forced to play 90 mins, he often looked near dead on his feet to me which is fair enough given his inexperience and post growth spurt looking physique but his talent shone through none the less and he never looked like he was trying to hide which is a good reflection of his mettle. Expect he'll be used sparingly for a while but hopefully he grabs whatever opportunities he's given and forces himself into Howe's thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said: I think you're underselling him quite a bit here. He was very good in that right-sided 8 role he initially played. I'm not saying he's as good as Mainoo, but bare in mind Miley is a year younger. You'll not find many 17 year olds that have done what he did. He's clearly a very special talent. I wouldn't say I was under selling him. He looks a good prospect but I think his performances were more "good for a 17 year old" than "good for a regular starter in a team with champions league aspirations", which he was forced into being. The team massively struggled whilst he was playing and his lack of experience and readiness was clearly a major factor, amongst many others, in that. You'll not find many 17 year old do what he did because most are protected and eased in. He has the foundations to have a very good future, I certainly rate him, but he needs managed first team exposure, like most at that age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Was a bad injury unfortunately. So out for a little while. Shame that. While not as impressive as Lewis, I'm sure he could carve out a decent career for himself if he stays fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 55 minutes ago, Lenny said: I wouldn't say I was under selling him. He looks a good prospect but I think his performances were more "good for a 17 year old" than "good for a regular starter in a team with champions league aspirations", which he was forced into being. The team massively struggled whilst he was playing and his lack of experience and readiness was clearly a major factor, amongst many others, in that. You'll not find many 17 year old do what he did because most are protected and eased in. He has the foundations to have a very good future, I certainly rate him, but he needs managed first team exposure, like most at that age. Agree with all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 9 hours ago, LFEE said: Was a bad injury unfortunately. So out for a little while. He is back now turned out wasn’t as bad as they first thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I thought he looked excellent, his range of passing was basically second to Bruno’s. He was very good at protecting the ball and showed good movement and understanding going forward. His main issue was his positioning defensively but you’d expect that for someone his age. He looked a better player than Sean despite only being 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 7 minutes ago, gbandit said: I thought he looked excellent, his range of passing was basically second to Bruno’s. He was very good at protecting the ball and showed good movement and understanding going forward. His main issue was his positioning defensively but you’d expect that for someone his age. He looked a better player than Sean despite only being 17 Agreed. I think part of the problem in assessing him is his languid gait. Seems slow and, a tad, ponderous but really isn't. It's just that long legged, lollop 😂 Think Lenny, earlier, said he was no Mainoo which he isn't. Slightly unfair comparison because if he hadn't gotten injured who's to say his progression wouldn't have been equally impressive. As it happens they're different types of midfielders. Could actually be a decent middle pair, imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 11 hours ago, Lenny said: I wouldn't say I was under selling him. He looks a good prospect but I think his performances were more "good for a 17 year old" than "good for a regular starter in a team with champions league aspirations", which he was forced into being. The team massively struggled whilst he was playing and his lack of experience and readiness was clearly a major factor, amongst many others, in that. You'll not find many 17 year old do what he did because most are protected and eased in. He has the foundations to have a very good future, I certainly rate him, but he needs managed first team exposure, like most at that age. Did he not feature quite heavily before the team started struggling, and doing quite well at that? Think he just suffered with being overplayed, like most others, and especially excusable since he’s not physically the finished product yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 5 hours ago, gbandit said: I thought he looked excellent, his range of passing was basically second to Bruno’s. He was very good at protecting the ball and showed good movement and understanding going forward. His main issue was his positioning defensively but you’d expect that for someone his age. He looked a better player than Sean despite only being 17 He has real quality, seemed a bit hesitant with the defensive side but he's so young still. I'm hoping we don't decide to sell him until he's had a chance to play some more minutes for us. We play 3 CMs so we need a good group of 5 or 6. Would be sadder to sell him than when we sold Anderson IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I think he’s got the potential to be a very good player. You don’t pass the ball like he does without being extremely talented. I don’t remember Sean that well when he came through younger and obviously we need a bigger sample size and for him to continue to develop but all the signs suggest he’s good enough to make it with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Anyone saying we struggled while Miley featured last season is neglecting to mention that was when we were playing the same 11 every 3 days, whether that's selective memory or not I dunno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Miley's biggest issue was his scanning; he never knew what was going on behind him. Easily coached and it will make him absolutely class when he gets it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I can't wait to see this lad back on the pitch. fingers crossed the injuries haven't impacted him too much, he's got all the tools to go to the very top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I thought he had good, sometimes great, periods in pretty much every game he played, but he'd obviously gas out fairly badly after about an hour. Don't agree at all that he was ever invisible, I'd wager the stats don't show that either. Fairly involved in quite a few phases of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I would agree he impressed but also clearly bit too soon really. However since he's put himself in first team I hope he does get minutes as if he doesnt really should be on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 He, like his brother, are decisive and ambitious passers of the ball. He also had a hell of a cross on him when he was getting into half spaces as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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