Newcastle United 0-2 Manchester United (26/02/2023)

[Thomson Mouse]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Personally think the Shearer chants from both sides are completely harmless and just a bit of banter between the clubs and the only chant (I believe) that relates the two. 

 

We obviously don't care that Shearer turned us down. We won multiple leagues and the treble not long after. 

 

I'm also sure Shearer doesn't care. He became the record goalscorer at his boyhood club with a total that still hasn't been beaten.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course you don’t care  

[Guest]

Aye I don't see an issue with it. Man U fans are some of the best for singing their 'retro' songs, so of course they're going to sing the OGS and Cheer Up Alan Shearer songs when we play.

[TheGuv]

7 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

This the other one...
 

 

No, he deleted his Twitter. 
 

 

[joeyt]

Felt too disappointed to post yesterday. Was standing the whole game at the back of one of the lower tiers. Atmosphere was magnificent up until they scored

 

For the game itself they just kept us at arms length once they scored. 

 

Sure I'll stick some photos up when I get round to it

[joeyt]

And don't want to dwell on many negatives but absolutely sick of our set pieces 

 

The worst one is the one we get on the halfway line, send everybody up then hopelessly float the ball straight to their keeper or out of play

[PCW1983]

Strangely Jacob Murphy is in Weatherby Services getting food. 

[PCW1983]

3 minutes ago, PCW1983 said:

Strangely Jacob Murphy is in Weatherby Services getting food. 

In fact the team bus is here. 

[Thomson Mouse]

Go and tell them we’re proud of them all  

[TRon]

40 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

That the hilariously bad ITK?

 

I watched a couple of his videos but the ITK stuff was just so bad I quickly avoided any later ones. That said I don't really watch any these days, not even the good ones like Toon Review or Loaded. They're just too fucking long.

[Adam]

Photo of Murphy waving please!

[PCW1983]

He’s got his lass and kid with him so not sure if the team bus is just family or what but there’s loads getting photos at the bus. 

[Minhosa]

5 hours ago, Stifler said:

How?

At best his presence comes across as condescending, at worst it comes across as goading.

Why does he keep coming in here? He has no allegiance to us, from our knowledge he’s not even from around here. Why is he so active on here?

One of the things that makes this place so great are the opposition fans. @brummie for Villa, @Froggyfor Man Utd and @Mikefor Liverpool etc etc.

 

We can't just get the hump when they beat us and decide they're not welcome .

 

The fella's done nowt wrong.

 

As for the game, having calmed down a bit, you've got to think that English football is now essentially a money game and it broadly plays out that the bigger spenders/salary payers tend to outperform the rest, Leicester's miracle and the odd upset aside.

 

When you look at the amount of players in that Man Utd squad earning double/treble/if not more than our top earners, you're essentially playing against pro's at the top of their game and/or peak of their careers. Off the top of my head, the following must all be all on over £250k per week;-

 

- DDG

- Varane

- Martinez

- Casemiro

- Fred

- Rashford

- Sancho

- Antony

- Eriksen

 

When you think our highest earner is probably on less than £130k per week, you can already appreciate the gulf in expectation/value/top level experience.

 

They're buying pro's from the highest levels at and/or near to their peaks. We are buying Bruno/Gordon/Botman/Isak hoping they'll get to that next level with us.

 

With that in mind, I felt even before the game that we'd need an early 'incident' or NUFC goal to give us that little bit extra to cling on to but it never came. Maybe even if VAR had overturned their opener, that might have spurred a reaction/lift.

 

I was a bit disappointed we didn't spend the balance of the first half getting ASM on the ball every fucking time so as to drive at the yellow carded Dalot before he got hooked at HT tbh. Felt like there was a bit of a missed opportunity but, hey ho, we performed pretty much in line with where I thought we'd be.

 

As for atmosphere, I was in level 5 and it was pretty good around us other than after their second. A mix of folks standing/sitting but no arguments about people choosing either and most of the folks around us in good voice.

 

Fucking queues getting through the turnstiles were a joke though and made me wonder what the point of that fucking allotted entry time was tbh...

 

Have a feeling we might struggle to lift ourselves after this and, if we're honest, it's been a major fucking distraction for us and it never seemed to be for them.

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Minhosa

[joeyt]

11 minutes ago, PCW1983 said:

He’s got his lass and kid with him so not sure if the team bus is just family or what but there’s loads getting photos at the bus. 

 

Howe was in a coffee shop in Jesmond earlier today with the other coaching staff 

[gbandit]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

Howe was in a coffee shop in Jesmond earlier today with the other coaching staff 

?

[joeyt]

 

Arlo's

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by joeyt

[Froggy]

3 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

When you look at the amount of players in that Man Utd squad earning double/treble/if not more than our top earners, you're essentially playing against pro's at the top of their game and/or peak of their careers. Off the top of my head, the following must all be all on over £250k per week;-

 

- DDG

- Varane

- Martinez

- Casemiro

- Fred

- Rashford

- Sancho

- Antony

- Eriksen

 

We've brought in a wage structure now, but aye some of players are on obscene wages with Sancho and Martial being the standouts IMO. Just another sign of how badly run we were before. 

 

DDG - £375k (negotiating a new deal with a drop to £250k)

Varane - £340k

Casemiro - £300k

Sancho - £350k 

Rashford - £200k (negotiating a new deal expectsd to rise to £250k)

Antony - £200k

 

Fred is actually only (ha) on £120k. As is Martinez. Eriksen is on £150k. 

 

Martial is £250k a week which is also ridiculous. Mental throwing those wages at such young players. 

 

11 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

 

 

[Mike]

21 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

One of the things that makes this place so great are the opposition fans. @brummie for Villa, @Froggyfor Man Utd and @Mikefor Liverpool etc etc.

 

We can't just get the hump when they beat us and decide they're not welcome .

 

The fella's done nowt wrong.

 

As for the game, having calmed down a bit, you've got to think that English football is now essentially a money game and it broadly plays out that the bigger spenders/salary payers tend to outperform the rest, Leicester's miracle and the odd upset aside.

 

When you look at the amount of players in that Man Utd squad earning double/treble/if not more than our top earners, you're essentially playing against pro's at the top of their game and/or peak of their careers. Off the top of my head, the following must all be all on over £250k per week;-

 

- DDG

- Varane

- Martinez

- Casemiro

- Fred

- Rashford

- Sancho

- Antony

- Eriksen

 

When you think our highest earner is probably on less than £130k per week, you can already appreciate the gulf in expectation/value/top level experience.

 

They're buying pro's from the highest levels at and/or near to their peaks. We are buying Bruno/Gordon/Botman/Isak hoping they'll get to that next level with us.

 

With that in mind, I felt even before the game that we'd need an early 'incident' or NUFC goal to give us that little bit extra to cling on to but it never came. Maybe even if VAR had overturned their opener, that might have spurred a reaction/lift.

 

I was a bit disappointed we didn't spend the balance of the first half getting ASM on the ball every fucking time so as to drive at the yellow carded Dalot before he got hooked at HT tbh. Felt like there was a bit of a missed opportunity but, hey ho, we performed pretty much in line with where I thought we'd be.

 

As for atmosphere, I was in level 5 and it was pretty good around us other than after their second. A mix of folks standing/sitting but no arguments about people choosing either and most of the folks around us in good voice.

 

Fucking queues getting through the turnstiles were a joke though and made me wonder what the point of that fucking allotted entry time was tbh...

 

Have a feeling we might struggle to lift ourselves after this and, if we're honest, it's been a major fucking distraction for us and it never seemed to be for them.

 

 

 

Motherfucker.

 

[Sempiternal]

Honestly baffled AWB doesn’t get in the England squad ahead of Trent. He can actually defend. Always been a big fan of his 

[Minhosa]

12 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

We've brought in a wage structure now, but aye some of players are on obscene wages with Sancho and Martial being the standouts IMO. Just another sign of how badly run we were before. 

 

DDG - £375k (negotiating a new deal with a drop to £250k)

Varane - £340k

Casemiro - £300k

Sancho - £350k 

Rashford - £200k (negotiating a new deal expectsd to rise to £250k)

Antony - £200k

 

Fred is actually only (ha) on £120k. As is Martinez. Eriksen is on £150k. 

 

Martial is £250k a week which is also ridiculous. Mental throwing those wages at such young players. 

 

 

Yep - some of them are mental but it's indicative of a super-club really in terms of spending power and desire to win things.

 

We're obviously not that and, despite the new found riches, I'd hope we don't adopt the same approach tbh.

 

So we'll have to find a way to compete with the likes of you, Man City and Chelsea etc whilst not being able to pay those sort of wages.

 

My earlier point of the 'money/success' link, I think for that reason, it's only a matter of time until Chelsea end up back fighting for the title when they sort their shit out. Might take a few years but broadly the principle of 'if you throw enough money at it' really does apply in football bar the extreme clusterfucks of QPR, Ridsdales Leeds etc.

 

Your established super-clubs, if you like, have the whole balance tilted in their favour and will always be there or thereabouts until theres a fundamental shift in how football is governed/structured.

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Minhosa

[Minhosa]

Just now, Sempiternal said:

Honestly baffled AWB doesn’t get in the England squad ahead of Trent. He can actually defend. Always been a big fan of his 

He absolutely owned ASM in pretty much every 1 on 1.

[Sempiternal]

He’s so annoyingly lengthy, like extended telescopic legs. 

[Sempiternal]

Just now, Minhosa said:

He absolutely owned ASM in pretty much every 1 on 1.

He did yeah, no shade on ASM he’s a very good defender and his acceleration is nuts. A more Athletic dribbler like ASM will struggle against him, you’re better off with a Hatem type who’s going to beat with skill alone 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Minhosa said:

Yep - some of them are mental but it's indicative of a super-club really in terms of spending power and desire to win things.

 

We're obviously not that and, despite the new found riches, I'd hope we don't adopt the same approach tbh.

 

So we'll have to find a way to compete with the likes of you, Man City and Chelsea etc whilst not being able to pay those sort of wages.

 

My earlier point of the 'money/success' link, I think for that reason, it's only a matter of time until Chelsea end up back fighting for the title when they sort their shit out. Might take a few years but broadly the principle of 'if you throw enough money at it' really does apply in football bar the extreme clusterfucks of QPR, Ridsdales Leeds etc.

 

Your established super-clubs, if you like, have the whole balancd tilted in their favour and will always be there or thereabouts until theres a fundamental shift in how football is governed/structured.

 

I absolutely hope we do adopt that approach, although it will probably take us a couple of years at least to be in a position to do so. If you want the best team, eventually you have to pay top wages. We can't do it yet, but we will at some point.

[Minhosa]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

I absolutely hope we do adopt that approach, although it will probably take us a couple of years at least to be in a position to do so. If you want the best team, eventually you have to pay top wages. We can't do it yet, but we will at some point.

It'll be interesting whether we're 'allowed' to by the footballing gods who are seemingly hell bent on tilting the table towards the established 'big six' or whatever they're called nowadays.

 

Only a personal preference tbh, but I'd far rather have a team full of Bruno's and Botmans who come to our club/country with their best years ahead of them (in theory anyway) than sign players like Casemiro and Varane.

 

As I said, appreciate that won't be everyone's view, but it's mine.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

It'll be interesting whether we're 'allowed' to by the footballing gods who are seemingly hell bent on tilting the table towards the established 'big six' or whatever they're called nowadays.

 

Only a personal preference tbh, but I'd far rather have a team full of Bruno's and Botmans who come to our club/country with their best years ahead of them (in theory anyway) than sign players like Casemiro and Varane.

 

As I said, appreciate that won't be everyone's view, but it's mine.

 

I'm never going to disagree about signing Brunos or Botmans, but tbf I laughed at Man U spending £60m on Casimero...but he's won them the cup, and will get them into the CL as well, so I guess they aren't going to complain.