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11 hours ago, NEEJ said:

I think some people genuinely don't know anything else. Their matchday experience is just 90 minutes of misery (like everyone's experience today heh heh heh) otherwise they haven't actually been to the match.

 

People leaving today at 1-2 today though, fuck me. 


A few of our STH holders are like that. Think they almost own their seat, and think they’re mint fans because they’ve had that seat for 600 millennia and always turn up regardless of how negative they are at the games. Be the same lot who didn’t make a peep at Wembley.
 

That bloke behind me actually stayed to the end Personally I wouldn’t ever leave a match early if I could especially when a match is in the balance but there’s almost an unwritten rule in English football where if a team goes 2 goals down after 80 minutes or so there’s a mass exodus. I don’t think staying to the end is worthy of some kind of soopafan badge. I’ve left a couple games early in my short time but mainly due to how grim it’s been; I left when the 4th hit the net yesterday, first time since the takeover. Last times I remember leaving were going 3 down to West Ham in stoppage time under Benitez (late walk in game, left as soon as the 3rd hit the net) and the 0-3 home defeat to Leicester under McClaren. Only time I’ve ever left before stoppage time from the top of my head.

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The only time I’ve ever left early was the 0-6 against Liverpool. 
 

Just looked back at the timeline of that game to try and remind myself, and my snapping point was when Debuchy got himself sent off immediately after it going 0-5. Didn’t even make it to Barrack Road before it went 0-6.

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One thing I’ve contemplated a few times is that people in the stadium are quick to be very vocal when they want to slag an NUFC player or express frustration if there’s a mistimed pass etc 

 

High volume, passionate negativity is very easy for many   
 

But people are rarely so keen to offer encouragement to players, or build them back up if they’ve made a mistake 

 

Is this just a societal thing ? It’s easier to be negative & angry than it is to be positive & encouraging ? 

 

 

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Just now, bobbydazzla said:

One thing I’ve contemplated a few times is that people in the stadium are quick to be very vocal when they want to slag an NUFC player or express frustration if there’s a mistimed pass etc 

 

High volume, passionate negativity comes very easily for many   
 

But people are rarely so keen to offer encouragement to players, or build them back up if they’ve made a mistake 

 

Is this just a societal thing ? It’s easier to be negative and angry than it is to be positive and encouraging ? 

Some people may suggest regularly reading through certain threads on here would strongly back up your suggestion…

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10 minutes ago, SteV said:

Some people may suggest regularly reading through certain threads on here would strongly back up your suggestion…


I can be a negative bastard who loves a passionate rant about things that I think are shite (Coldplay, Sketchers) or people I hate (Michael McIntyre, Clive Tyldesley)

 

But I can switch it off when I’m in the ground. If Sean Longstaff isn’t a top tier midfielder, then hurling abuse at him and groaning every time he makes an error isn’t going to make him play better, it’ll make him even worse 

 

Save the slagging until out of the ground is my motto 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Paully said:

Each to their own but I’ve never left early and never will - it’s like going to watch a movie and leaving before the end! 
 

(PS - Unless Michelle Keegan wanted to meet me in Popworld!)

 

I've never left either, don't think I'm a superfan for that but I stay till the end and I will always clap the lads off.

 

Yesterday was hard but we were bested in all departments and I wouldn't say it was necessarily due to lack of desire or effort.

 

Atmosphere in the barracks may be some of the worst in St James', it's a constant merry-go-round of corporate day trippers and a few misplaced ST holders from elsewhere, hate it.

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I think staying until the end and clapping them off after the run we’ve just had is the least people could have done yesterday, like.

 

Woeful craic scurrying off because you can’t take losing a game against a very decent side.

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To be honest I thought the lads deserved a standing ovation at the end for the effort they put in throughout the unbeaten run, being on the front foot in the semi final and knowing we are there to support them through thick and thin.

 

Oh and if anyone left at 2.1  has a semi final ticket, can you pass it onto me as Im sure we will need support until the very end on that night

 

 

 

 

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Aside from that, I felt a touch of the Wembleys around me yesterday. Feels like as a collective we’re too easily muted as soon as the stakes are high and we’re not immediately doing it on the pitch. The winning record seemed to be playing on people’s minds.

 

I’m already dreading potentially being at Wembley again in March because I know exactly what it’ll be like if we don’t score early and go on to win.

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11 minutes ago, Rich said:

I think staying until the end and clapping them off after the run we’ve just had is the least people could have done yesterday, like.

 

Woeful craic scurrying off because you can’t take losing a game against a very decent side.

 

Exactly that, if we were coming off 5 defeats in a row and people left then I wouldn't be as passionate to rant but we've won 9 games on the bounce, won at the Emirates and Old Trafford were we always get rolled over... Surely the lads deserve a clap off. Not like the soulless players who got turned over off Sunderland without breaking sweat are they

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2 minutes ago, Rich said:

Aside from that, I felt a touch of the Wembleys around me yesterday. Feels like as a collective we’re too easily muted as soon as the stakes are high and we’re not immediately doing it on the pitch. The winning record seemed to be playing on people’s minds.

 

I’m already dreading potentially being at Wembley again in March because I know exactly what it’ll be like if we don’t score early and go on to win.

 

The Arsenal support at home has to change it really does, we need to do out bit, if Arsenal score we get louder not moan..

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32 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

One thing I’ve contemplated a few times is that people in the stadium are quick to be very vocal when they want to slag an NUFC player or express frustration if there’s a mistimed pass etc 

 

High volume, passionate negativity is very easy for many   
 

But people are rarely so keen to offer encouragement to players, or build them back up if they’ve made a mistake 

 

Is this just a societal thing ? It’s easier to be negative & angry than it is to be positive & encouraging ? 

 

 

 

 

Its called alcohol

 

Most fans are half cut before they arrive in the ground, hardly watching just talking to their mates, and shouting to be heard. You get this at loads of matches though, it's a culture thing, worse in large groups, but singular pissed 50+ year olds do it, so not picking on the groups of lads.

 

My daughter hates sitting next to gob shites who want everyone to hear them, she usually makes me swap seats, a good indicator is, if the seat is empty next to you and the game has begun, but then your row all start standing 10 minutes in, a piss pot is arriving late from the pub.

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1 hour ago, Danh1 said:

There’s 100% an appetite for it, it’s just about getting everyone like minded together as you’ve pointed out on here numerous times.


The old level 7 corner had 3k stood.

 


I used to love it up there. Had my ST there for a couple of seasons before Ashley split it up. Great decision extending the family section next to the away end.  
 

Not the best being so far away. But the atmosphere was usually quality and could always have a bit of back and forth with the away fans. 
 

Villa 6-0

Sunderland 5-1
Arsenal 4-4

 

Being up there for those games was something else.  

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Just on the negativity stuff. I thought for large spells yesterday. You could hear NUFC chants loud and clear on the TV and seemed like we stayed with the team until perhaps right at the end?

 

You got the groans and anger when we misplaced yet another pass or let them in for one of their many chances. But that’s par for the course at basically every ground, I’d say?
 

I take people’s point about the moaning and the almost expectant nature of the crowd. Certainly seems like that when I’ve been over the last couple of seasons. 

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Genuinely think we have the most miserable and boring home crowd in the league.

 

The whole Gallowgate should be standing all game regardless, as other home ends currently do around the league.

 

The Kop must have old bastards who’ve had season tickets for years, but they manage it.

 

There just isn’t any sense of occasion anymore it’s fucking desperate.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SteV said:

The only time I’ve ever left early was the 0-6 against Liverpool. 
 

Just looked back at the timeline of that game to try and remind myself, and my snapping point was when Debuchy got himself sent off immediately after it going 0-5. Didn’t even make it to Barrack Road before it went 0-6.


Only time I left early was in about the 83rd or 84th minute when we were 3-0 down to Watford on a Baltic day in the winter. Was chilled to the bone, feet everything 😂

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27 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Just on the negativity stuff. I thought for large spells yesterday. You could hear NUFC chants loud and clear on the TV and seemed like we stayed with the team until perhaps right at the end?

 

You got the groans and anger when we misplaced yet another pass or let them in for one of their many chances. But that’s par for the course at basically every ground, I’d say?
 

I take people’s point about the moaning and the almost expectant nature of the crowd. Certainly seems like that when I’ve been over the last couple of seasons. 


Think SJP has been prone to vocal negativity for my whole life and probably longer. Presumably other home fans groan when their players make a mistake as well mind.  

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20 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Think SJP has been prone to vocal negativity for my whole life and probably longer. Presumably other home fans groan when their players make a mistake as well mind.  

Seems to be a major overreaction to any mistakes these days which doesn't help the player. I know it can be frustrating but wish people would stay calm.

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3 hours ago, Scoreboard82 said:

Seems to be a major overreaction to any mistakes

Only if it's certain players making them. Murphy getting the groans first half yesterday but fuck all when tonali misplaced a simple pass

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One thing I've noticed about SJP now is how quick it is to boo. Basically any defeat is boos unless it's against one of the real elite sides, Man City or Liverpool. Proper spoilt brat behaviour.

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6 hours ago, Paully said:

Each to their own but I’ve never left early and never will - it’s like going to watch a movie and leaving before the end! 
 

(PS - Unless Michelle Keegan wanted to meet me in Popworld!)

She does, she just trying to get rid of that fake Essex cunt first 

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16 minutes ago, Wullie said:

One thing I've noticed about SJP now is how quick it is to boo. Basically any defeat is boos unless it's against one of the real elite sides, Man City or Liverpool. Proper spoilt brat behaviour.

 

it's been a perfect weekend for some of our fans. we got hammered and Anderson/Minteh scored.

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