madras Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, huss9 said: the people that piss me off are the ones that never travel but rake in money selling their away tickets and accumulate loyalty points. so any cup finals etc, they're at the front of the queue. I know a few that never go to home games, never had an ST but rarely miss an away game cos its a "better day out". I doubt they'll be raking in money either, they'll be selling at face value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusSlime Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bellis80 said: I’ve never heard of anyone paying over the top for an away ticket and once you get past about 130 points it makes no difference having any more. So why would anyone continue to accumulate points beyond that? We’ve been to one cup final in 20 odd years and only needed 25 loyalty points. I doubt that’s why anyone would have done what you’re saying. I don’t know how much they charge for the buses, so they could make money like that, but could barely give away a ticket for some games in the last 15 years so can’t imagine it’s a major factor. Did you even need 25 points? FA cup final and the total will be higher as clubs get less of an allocation than Carabao. ”When” we are in the CL final loyalty point total will be higher still. Edited August 20, 2023 by OptimusSlime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) I’ve been going to games quite regularly for most of my life and I’ve got zero loyalty points. I look forward to having no chance of a ST in the future Edited August 20, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, OptimusSlime said: Did you even need 25 points? FA cup final and the total will be higher as clubs get less of an allocation than Carabao. ”When” we are in the CL final loyalty point total will be higher still. First group was 25 points and one home cup game I think. So loyalty points hardly a factor as they based it more on going to the cup games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I’ve been going to games quite regularly for most of my life and I’ve got zero loyalty points. I look forward to having no chance of a ST in the future Last season my sister shared a season ticket with one of my best mates, she then paid to go to almost all the individual games she'd miss, has 0 loyalty points. Think that's a bit shit personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 For want of a better thread to ask this question. Champions League away games, what do we expect the demand to be? Goes without saying they’ll sell out, but at what loyalty threshold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Anyone know what “acceptable” photo ID was accepted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bellis80 said: I’ve never heard of anyone paying over the top for an away ticket and once you get past about 130 points it makes no difference having any more. So why would anyone continue to accumulate points beyond that? We’ve been to one cup final in 20 odd years and only needed 25 loyalty points. I doubt that’s why anyone would have done what you’re saying. I don’t know how much they charge for the buses, so they could make money like that, but could barely give away a ticket for some games in the last 15 years so can’t imagine it’s a major factor. there's plenty sell on at a profit and have way more than 150 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, GeordieT said: For want of a better thread to ask this question. Champions League away games, what do we expect the demand to be? Goes without saying they’ll sell out, but at what loyalty threshold? Totally dependent on who the opposition is and the size of their ground. *there’s a theory that getting Shakhtar will be the one as they’re playing home games at Hamburg (50k+) and obviously won’t fill that with home fans (although there are huge amounts of Ukrainians displaced in Hamburg at the minute). So we could possibly get a massive allocation. Edited August 20, 2023 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, SteV said: The complaints you would get would be from someone who lets say, went to every game from 2010-2016, amassed ~150 points. They’ve been going since, but at a much reduced rate (and not selling on or anything). They go from having ~170 points to having <20 points. They’ll feel pissed off, and claim that the club don’t care about ‘legacy’ supporters. Others will say it’s fine, and those that go here and now should be at the top of priority list. Fair enough, but if you’ve been to 20 aways in 7 years surely you wouldn’t begrudge those who’ve been away more on that time priority over tickets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, madras said: I know a few that never go to home games, never had an ST but rarely miss an away game cos its a "better day out". I doubt they'll be raking in money either, they'll be selling at face value. These are the lads who create an atmosphere, the real worry here is that the away support is diluted with your Wembley brigade, and half the away end will be sat down which would be the point i’d say enough is enough and footballs not for me anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, huss9 said: there's plenty sell on at a profit and have way more than 150 points. I know of a lot of example where it’s sold as a package. As an example, Brighton a couple of years ago was £150 for travel and ticket. I remember when games were postponed and my mate asked for a refund the answer was no because they still had to pay for the match ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I also liked the old system where you applied for every away game you were willing to attend. If you missed out, you still got a point, allowing you to build up enough to start actually having a chance at tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Vedder said: I also liked the old system where you applied for every away game you were willing to attend. If you missed out, you still got a point, allowing you to build up enough to start actually having a chance at tickets. When was this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vedder said: Fair enough, but if you’ve been to 20 aways in 7 years surely you wouldn’t begrudge those who’ve been away more on that time priority over tickets? I think people would. They’d feel if they’d been to 170 aways, regardless of when, they should be having dibs over someone who’s been to 25. Impossible to keep everyone happy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, SteV said: I think people would. They’d feel if they’d been to 170 aways, regardless of when, they should be having dibs over someone who’s been to 25. Impossible to keep everyone happy though. That's the thing, everyone wants a solution to their personal context/circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: When was this? When there used to be a pink slip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 This was fucking OTT aswell, Northumbria Police will be itching to ban them to get their numbers up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKIddPKGKnY&list=RDCMUCnfaXGG3LUFjbdnTmbWXKMw&start_radio=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, SteV said: Totally dependent on who the opposition is and the size of their ground. *there’s a theory that getting Shakhtar will be the one as they’re playing home games at Hamburg (50k+) and obviously won’t fill that with home fans (although there are huge amounts of Ukrainians displaced in Hamburg at the minute). So we could possibly get a massive allocation. Equally is more than a couple of potential games where direct travel is going to be difficult and therefore expensive. More broadly will be interesting to see whether the likely cost of a couple of European away trips lowers demand for Premier League games between now and Christmas. Not a cheap endeavour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: These are the lads who create an atmosphere, the real worry here is that the away support is diluted with your Wembley brigade, and half the away end will be sat down which would be the point i’d say enough is enough and footballs not for me anymore. Exactly, also i do think some of these "just want to he there" rather than supprting the team. Canny few coked up srone island types near me did'nt back the lads once where we we doing all we could..but again theh just wanna be there to say they are... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Reading brought in something where points are rolling on the last 5 years but there’s also a way to a acknowledge longer term ‘legacy’ support https://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/02/loyalty-points-change-2023-24/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: This was fucking OTT aswell, Northumbria Police will be itching to ban them to get their numbers up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKIddPKGKnY&list=RDCMUCnfaXGG3LUFjbdnTmbWXKMw&start_radio=1 There's zero context to that video of them being arrested other than their viewpoint. You love being the narrative to everything. Edited August 20, 2023 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: There's zero context to that video of them being arrested other than their viewpoint. You love being the narrative to everything. Here’s your context, I offer my opinion on what I’ve seen, and it’s what the general consensus was of people who witnessed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKxaiP4g50&pp=ygURbmV3Y2FzdGxlIGZhbnMgdHY%3D Edited August 20, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Superior Acuña said: Reading brought in something where points are rolling on the last 5 years but there’s also a way to a acknowledge longer term ‘legacy’ support https://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/2023/august/02/loyalty-points-change-2023-24/ Interesting. They seem to have put quite a bit of thought into it. A touch convoluted on first reading, but I’m sure easy enough to grasp once you get used to it. Any idea how its been received by their fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: Yeah I think it was them who argued for a change in ticket distribution. Certainly thats the general consensus. It's gone down like a lead balloon tbh but I'm sure it suits some of them which is what they'll view as important. The more I listen to that cabal of cunts. The more I wish they didn’t exist. Self-serving tossers who are mostly clueless about the game. Their analysis and views are bi-polar week to week and all. The decent ones that I enjoyed listening to all seem to have jumped ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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