Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[Away Toon]

10 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

Glad you don't run a football club then. What an awful and unprofessional thing to do. 

Well the way this football club has been run has resulted in us winning nothing for 55 years so it's time for a different approach.

[Skeletor]

Could see him being sold to someone like Liverpool for massive money next summer. Think this will be a self-inflicted biting us in the arse situation.

[The College Dropout]

16 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

Glad you don't run a football club then. What an awful and unprofessional thing to do. 

It's pretty common tbf.

[timeEd32]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

It's pretty common tbf.

 

It also has ramifications beyond the particular player if you're doing it to someone who is a well liked professional for essentially no reason.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

A great way to maximise the sale price too. Public displays of being surplus to requirements.

[TRon]

I think the professional thing to do would be to have told Miggy in January that his future was limited at Newcastle and a move would be in his best interests. If he wants to stay then there's not much we can do about it, but it does mean he must have no ambition (assuming he was told that).

 

Either way, the upshot of players like this staying is we have sold Minteh. I think that was a bad outcome personally, but I guess we'll see for sure next season.

[Froggy]

24 minutes ago, Away Toon said:

Well the way this football club has been run has resulted in us winning nothing for 55 years so it's time for a different approach.

 

Mourinho did this to Schweinsteiger in 2016 and proceeded to win two trophies. Just saying.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

It’s bad. But I would get all Miggys stuff and move it to the U16s.

 

 Jesus fucking Christ, man. 

[joeyt]

3 hours ago, Upthemags said:

Only reason this debate is still carrying on is because some are pretending like the Minteh sale was some masterstroke from the club, when it was very obviously the result of a series of blunders.

 

We were a Liverpool email away from selling our young England international star until a prospect who quintupled his value agreed to a transfer to save us. I've said it a several times it does not reflect poorly on your fandom/loyalty to say the club was massively negligent in their handling of PSR. This topic is so played out though the thread really should be locked. Will only get worse once real matches start.

 

I'd like to know what alternatives you're suggesting?

 

People keep saying this but we don't have the youngsters Villa and Chelsea have to sell

[Geordie Ahmed]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

It’s bad. But I would get all Miggys stuff and move it to the U16s. Don’t even get to see the first team training staff or players. YOU HAVE TO GO TO SAUDI LAD! 

 

I'd be surprised if there has been a more absurd suggestion on this forum

[Magdad]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

If reports are true.  I don’t think Howe fully understands FFP or at the very least is extremely loyal to his players. Which is perhaps why some feel like they can dig in their heels.  
 

It’s a dickhead thing to do but I’ve heard so many stories of clubs completely isolating players for no other reason than they want them to leave. Howe wouldn’t do that to Miggy.  
 

It’s bad. But I would get all Miggys stuff and move it to the U16s. Don’t even get to see the first team training staff or players. YOU HAVE TO GO TO SAUDI LAD! they’ll let you go wherever your agent can find you a spot in January. You don’t even have to go to Saudi personally.  But you gotta sign that contract.  

Sends out a mint signal to future signings that does. Great man management skills. I for one am delighted views like this are locked out the ground currently. 

[Menace]

A universally liked player being put to train with the kids because he doesn't fancy a move across the world - the players would definitely run through brick walls if you did that

[Abacus]

30 minutes ago, TRon said:

I think the professional thing to do would be to have told Miggy in January that his future was limited at Newcastle and a move would be in his best interests. If he wants to stay then there's not much we can do about it, but it does mean he must have no ambition (assuming he was told that).

 

Either way, the upshot of players like this staying is we have sold Minteh. I think that was a bad outcome personally, but I guess we'll see for sure next season.

Maybe. But then again think back to January and how we were barely able to field a squad - and it seems now we were in no position to bring in a replacement.

 

As for Minteh, yes agreed we'd have liked to see him get a chance here. Really promising signs, but the jury is out till we see how he does in the PL. Wish him all the best personally.

[Chris_R]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

But I would get all Miggys stuff and move it to the U16s. Don’t even get to see the first team training staff or players. YOU HAVE TO GO TO SAUDI LAD! they’ll let you go wherever your agent can find you a spot in January. You don’t even have to go to Saudi personally.  But you gotta sign that contract.  

 

That would make me less likely to move, not more likely. And massively so.

 

I'd not be helping out any club that treat me like that, I'd just run my contract down and leave for nothing as a "fuck you" to them.

[Irish Magpie]

The most astonishing thing to me is I never realised before now the amount of people who make up scenarios in their heads then decide they must be correct.

Five minutes later they are being presented on the forum as obvious!

 

I promise you, the world does not revolve or rely on your fantasies. Odds are you are utterly wrong in your conclusions.

[Jaqen]

Think people forget footballers are actually people with families and lives when discussing transfers 

 

You can't just force someone to go to Saudi Arabia if they don't want to. 

[Upthemags]

19 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

I'd like to know what alternatives you're suggesting?

 

People keep saying this but we don't have the youngsters Villa and Chelsea have to sell

You don't get "alternatives" when you wait until a few hours before the deadline mate... That's why we were knocking on doors offering Anthony Gordon to his boyhood club after a fantastic season with us. The alternative was taking steps to remedy PSR issues beforehand, or transacting intelligently so we weren't in the mess in the first place (see Harvey Barnes transfer for 40 million, in a position in which we were already logjammed)

 

Not gonna keep making, and re-making, the same points. But if you think trying to firesale AG with a few minutes to go before the deadline is good policy, then cheers I guess

[joeyt]

6 minutes ago, Upthemags said:

You don't get "alternatives" when you wait until a few hours before the deadline mate... That's why we were knocking on doors offering Anthony Gordon to his boyhood club after a fantastic season with us. The alternative was taking steps to remedy PSR issues beforehand, or transacting intelligently so we weren't in the mess in the first place (see Harvey Barnes transfer for 40 million, in a position in which we were already logjammed)

 

Not gonna keep making, and re-making, the same points. But if you think trying to firesale AG with a few minutes to go before the deadline is good policy, then cheers I guess

 

I don't think anyone is saying selling Gordon would be a good strategy?

 

At least you've provided a different view though regarding not signing Barnes which is more than TCD is doing other than "we should have put a buy back clause in like Real Madrid do"

 

Regarding Barnes though this time last year he was a more established Prem player than Gordon was. And we needed a squad for our extra games

 

 

[The College Dropout]

43 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Mourinho did this to Schweinsteiger in 2016 and proceeded to win two trophies. Just saying.

I couldn’t remember who it was I heard it from and it must’ve been Schweinsteiger on the Overlap. I think I’ve heard a couple other players say it happened to them too. Neville was acting like he couldn’t believe it. I’ve definitely heard it happen to other footballers. He’s either acting or totally naive cos of his career at Man U.  

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

I don't think anyone is saying selling Gordon would be a good strategy?

 

At least you've provided a different view though regarding not signing Barnes which is more than TCD is doing other than "we should have put a buy back clause in like Real Madrid do"

 

Regarding Barnes though this time last year he was a more established Prem player than Gordon was. And we needed a squad for our extra games

 

 

I’ve suggested everything the excellent @Upthemags has and more actually.  
 

I think the club agrees with us. Which is why we’ve got Kelly at LB and not a £30m left back to compete with our other £30m left back.  And at the moment we don’t seem to be looking at £55m RWs unless we can sell someone. Because spending a lot of money without several strategies to get us out of trouble - is stupid and won’t be repeated. 

[Jaqen]

Should probably forward this thread to the club so the highly paid professionals don't make the same mistakes again and to teach Eddie how FFP works. 

[timeEd32]

10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’ve suggested everything the excellent @Upthemags has and more actually.  
 

I think the club agrees with us. Which is why we’ve got Kelly at LB and not a £30m left back to compete with our other £30m left back.  And at the moment we don’t seem to be looking at £55m RWs unless we can sell someone. Because spending a lot of money without several strategies to get us out of trouble - is stupid and won’t be repeated. 

 

Kelly and Hall likely cost a very similar amount.

[NE27]

1 minute ago, Jaqen said:

Should probably forward this thread to the club so the highly paid professionals don't make the same mistakes again and to teach Eddie how FFP works. 

 

Also stop him dressing himself, as the tight shirt fiasco and now the dhgate trainers are seriously dragging our classiness levels down a peg or two.

[gdm]

4 hours ago, Upthemags said:

Only reason this debate is still carrying on is because some are pretending like the Minteh sale was some masterstroke from the club, when it was very obviously the result of a series of blunders.

 

We were a Liverpool email away from selling our young England international star until a prospect who quintupled his value agreed to a transfer to save us. I've said it a several times it does not reflect poorly on your fandom/loyalty to say the club was massively negligent in their handling of PSR. This topic is so played out though the thread really should be locked. Will only get worse once real matches start.

there should be an automatic ban for people that ask for threads to be locked because they don’t like what’s in it. It’s pathetic and childish. Be a big boy and just don’t read it

 

as for the post…what a lot of guesswork & bollocks passed off as fact

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

Kelly and Hall likely cost a very similar amount.

Is Kelly not free? And Hall £30m? Hall costs the flub about £9 per year and Hall £4m? Amortisation cost and wages.  
 

Highly paid professionals make mistakes all the time. See Boeing and err our political class.