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Gambling has worked quite well for the Brighton and Brentford owners tbf [emoji38]

 

It does amaze me how you can literally become a millionaire by guessing correctly on an outcome but it's so so much harder than that.

 

Value betting is the only way to beat it but that's pretty much impossible to do with any high street or online bookmaker.

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In the meantime, Newcastle is following the developments, officially maintaining silence but rallying alongside the player in whom they invested heavily in the summer. Coach Eddie Howe has already written to his midfielder in recent days, trying to convey serenity to him and inquiring about the mental state of the footballer, who is decidedly affected by the affair. Howe showed affection to the boy and is now waiting for him in England, where Sandro should land in the next few days. Waiting for developments from the Turin Prosecutor's Office.


Serenity is our identity 

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2 hours ago, Klaus said:

 

Does gambling do any good for a society? Sadly I don't think it does. 


provides jobs, tax revenue (Denise Coates is the uks largest tax payer and Bet365 have done more for employment and the community in stoke than any government of whatever hue). 
 

also lots of people enjoy it as a legitimate leisure pursuit.

 

I’ll confess to having skin in the game but prohibition is never the answer imho 

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Ban gambling worldwide and return the money of anyone that lost money doing so previously, that's the only fair outcome. And I resent any forthcoming accusation that I've added the second part for my own benefit.

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1 hour ago, OCOCOL said:


provides jobs, tax revenue (Denise Coates is the uks largest tax payer and Bet365 have done more for employment and the community in stoke than any government of whatever hue). 
 

also lots of people enjoy it as a legitimate leisure pursuit.

 

I’ll confess to having skin in the game but prohibition is never the answer imho 

'They've taken so much money off poor and vulnerable people that they're the UK's biggest tax payer' isn't the winning argument you think it is.

 

And giving a small portion back that you've taken isn't 'doing good for the community'.

 

Society would be far better off without gambling. And I say that as someone who has benefited enormously from gambling myself.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

"They've taken so much money off poor and vulnerable people that they're the UK's biggest tax payer" isn't the winning argument you think it is.

 

And giving a small portion back that you've taken isn't "doing good for the community".

 

Society would be far better off without gambling. And I say that as someone who has benefited enormously from gambling myself.


You’ve hoyed some of your own slant in there and put it in quotation marks tbf. 
 

Gambling is as old as we are best to regulate and tax imho.

 

Consumerism, banking, financial services, the food and beverage industry are all as culpable as betting operations at harming the vulnerable in society. I’d argue gambling is an easy target.
 

I agree the amount of advertising and it’s prominence across football needs reviewed but problem

gambling rates remain  fairly static. I’d argue the penetration of the internet and social media into every minute of our waking lives via smart phones is probably cooking up unforeseen problems bigger than just gambling for our kids.

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12 minutes ago, OCOCOL said:


You’ve hoyed some of your own slant in there and put it in quotation marks tbf. 
 

 

 

 problemg ambling rates remain  fairly static. I’d argue the penetration of the internet and social media into every minute of our waking lives via smart phones is probably cooking up unforeseen problems bigger than just gambling for our kids.

 

First bit, yeah fair enough I was just struggling to properly quote on my phone. I had directly quoted you so the original text was there in my post to see, but then used "s incorrectly to indicate a quote when I should probably have used 's as it was paraphrasing. I've edited my original post to better reflect this.

 

As to your second point, social media is free. Sure kids being on social media all the time annoys old people who don't use or understand it, and you could argue it has negative mental health connotations if over-used to extreme, but nobody has ever lost their house through using Tik Tok too much.

 

 

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To be honest, gambling is just the same as smoking and drinking and any form of addiction, including porn. Some don't do it all, some do it occasionally and are not bothered, some do it as a hobby, some do it as a job, some people get obsessed, some get addicted, some lives are ruined, some commit suicide over it. 

 

It's about education and restriction. Not prohibition. Prohibition doesn't work.  There is nothing remotely good for yourself and your body drinking more than one glass of wine. But we all do it - socially it's fun. Same with gambling, it can be fun. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, OCOCOL said:


provides jobs, tax revenue (Denise Coates is the uks largest tax payer and Bet365 have done more for employment and the community in stoke than any government of whatever hue). 
 

also lots of people enjoy it as a legitimate leisure pursuit.

 

I’ll confess to having skin in the game but prohibition is never the answer imho 

 

'Provides jobs and tax revenues' is the go-to excuse for most  immoral enterprises.

 

For what it's worth, I don't think it should be illegal either. I know It does significant damage to society, so I take no part in it now.

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4 hours ago, brummie said:

There's a lot of heresay and made up "look at me" twitter nonsense around about this. 

 

I reckon it'll amount to next to nothing.

 

He's got lawyers involved and is staying silent, so until I hear something concrete, I am not assuming anything.

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