Guest Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: No one likes a grass, Fagioli. That just says he recommended the app, not betting on football though. If they've done some digging into Tonali on the back of that and he's been doing it, it's all on Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anderson Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 13/10/2023 at 01:38, Disco said: Can’t really participate in other vices apart from being a top shagger either. 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Can always be a top shagger. Just make sure it's fully legal and not involving wives of family/team mates. Unsanctioned patter theft? Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 If it's a ban for a year because he's betting on football then it's fair enough and you just have to accept it like a big injury. Shit but it is what it is - deserves punishment. He however needs supporting and given the help required if it's an addiction. The thing that worries me about it is if he's also banned from the training ground and being around the club completely. I don't think that will be helpful at all for the player. He needs support networks and to continue to be integrated into his new country. It's only likely to exacerbate the problem if you take away his day-to-day routine and job. The authorities need to see that when dishing out these punishments. We also need to pursue compensation under the presumption Milan knew something about it. Milan already had Bennacer out for a while and were obviously staring at his midfield partner being out long term too. They cashed in and used it to fund a rebuild. Dirty trick but I think it's absolutely clear they knew about it. It was a weird transfer from day 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 He’s just repeating the Italian reports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Hopefully we don’t pay his wages whilst he’s banned for a year, certainly couldn’t see him spending a year in the North East with no football to keep him occupied. No sympathy from me, get fucking shot and try and claim on insurance. Edited October 18, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Not good news. I hope NUFC is looking at legal action against Milan - if they knew about this when we bought him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Its not Looking good for Tonali If the reports of him betting on Milan are true. We are going to have to replace him some how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Hopefully we don’t pay his wages whilst he’s banned for a year, certainly couldn’t see him spending a year in the North East with no football to keep him occupied. Would imagine he’s allowed to train with us as normal just not play in matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Hopefully we don’t pay his wages whilst he’s banned for a year, certainly couldn’t see him spending a year in the North East with no football to keep him occupied. We don't have to, it's not like an injury, but could see the club still paying or part paying. I'd be asking for a an optional year ext to his contract as well. As for Milan...I can see a lengthy courtcase heading their way over this. This knew like, and why he was sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Whitley mag said: Hopefully we don’t pay his wages whilst he’s banned for a year, certainly couldn’t see him spending a year in the North East with no football to keep him occupied. He's a £55 million investment on a 5 year contract though. You have to be tactful here. Even if it costs us in the short term. Not paying his wages and just allowing him to go back to Italy for a year. Imo that is tantamount to writing off the player. You're basically giving up and we'll be loaning him out on the cheap. We need to bite the bullet to stick by him and try to keep him integrated fully - as difficult as that will be. We need to at very least contest his ability to train and be amongst the team on grounds of helping the player's wellbeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Aye let's cut off a gambling addicts wages for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Menace said: Aye let's cut off a gambling addicts wages for a year. Be doing him a favour can move back in with his parents if he’s that skint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Best outcome here would be to prove Milan knew, get our money back and send him packing back to Italy. Wishful thinking of course. And with Barnes out this is proper . We really need to be lucky with injuries until the Jan window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Would imagine he’s allowed to train with us as normal just not play in matches. That wasn't the case with Toney. I believe he's only just now been allowed back to train, roughly 3 months after he was found guilty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think the best outcome would be that he doesn’t get banned and continues to play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hope he gets the support he needs. Addiction is horrible and ruins lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Fagioli comes across as an absolute rat in all of this if those quotes are accurate. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?! "Tonali made me do it. Honest Guv'nor." Edited October 18, 2023 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think not allowing the players to train is ridiculous. I didn't realise they did that with Toney. Sure, ban them from playing, but isolating them completely is counterproductive if you're dealing with somebody who has an addiction and a vice they routinely fulfill during their time off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Smal said: Hope he gets the support he needs. Addiction is horrible and ruins lives. Down with this sensible posting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 What a f*****g idiot if true, deserves his ban if hes bet on Milan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Fagioli comes across as an absolute rat in all of this if those quotes are accurate. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?! "Tonali made me do it. Honest Guv'mor." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Myleftboot said: I was going to post something Mafia related and a tongue in cheek comment. But after Alan Hansen's comments and that poor Colombian footballer. I didn't want to tempt fate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I have 2 questions: - do we have some kind of insurance to cover when these things happen? I know we do for injuries, but suspect this type of thing is not insurable - If he is out for 1 year, think we have a contract stipulation, that he doesn't get paid? or at least, reduced wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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