STM Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, Cookie1892 said: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-ltb# heading to Brescia to pick him up maybe? Given that he has a game in Romania tonight, I'd be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, STM said: Given that he has a game in Romania tonight, I'd be surprised. ahh didnt know that, unless he doesnt play tonight and is going to sign his deal etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, STM said: It's the "leadership, warrior" comments that excite me (provided he can play a bit also, of course). It's high time we had an absolute Roy Keane type dominating the middle of the park. Another potential captain also. I'm going to be so intrigued to hear how we convinced him, what we have said to him and who he has asked about us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, KingArthur said: Last year we bought big money striker, now a CM so maybe year from now a big money centreback to replace Schär? Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Gattuso was colossal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, HawK said: Hide contents Left footed, Sven's got that spot covered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Lock this up and then sign Szoboszlai (22)/Maddison(26), which is very realistic, or an alternative on that level to those two: Gordon - 22 Botman - 23 Isak - 23 Tonali - 23 Willock - 23 Bruno - 25 Longstaff - 25 Big Joe - 26 Maxi - 26 FUCKING EXCITING team we're building for the years ahead, and will highly likely be more additions this Summer. Great if we get our big signings done early as well which is looking likely. LFG! Edited June 22, 2023 by mondonewc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just watched a highlights vid of him, what stands out most is how he outmuscles/outthinks/shoulder barges players iff the ball and then works himself into space. proper pivot for us this season, bruno further up field…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 What is a pivot?!!?!?!? Is it a new term for a defensive midfielder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: What is a pivot?!!?!?!? Is it a new term for a defensive midfielder? Bruno was a pivot last seasonbut I wouldn't have said he was a defensive midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 https://footballhandbook.com/what-is-a-pivot-in-football/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: What is a pivot?!!?!?!? Is it a new term for a defensive midfielder? Yes. It’s cuntese for ‘defensive midfielder’. Double-pivot is twatlish for ‘a pair of defensive or deep lying central midfielders’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I read some folks in social media say we are overpaying for him. I went back to Milan fans comments at the early stages when it was just a rumor and for 50m, they all said this bid is too pathetic and too low for one of the best midfielders in Seria A, and they would reply with a pic of their left nut, now we increase it by 20m and we see others say we are overpaying? He just turned 23 last month, and Eddie will make him a world class midfielder. This reminds me of 2012 when Verratti chose the PSG project over staying at Seria A, and he ended up as one of their legends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, elbee909 said: https://footballhandbook.com/what-is-a-pivot-in-football/ I'm not reading all that 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yes. It’s cuntese for ‘defensive midfielder’. Double-pivot is twatlish for ‘a pair of defensive or deep lying central midfielders’ ..when it's been summarised nicely as above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, hakka said: Hopefully he is disciplined and not wreckless. Not looked his card stats. I agree though, great to have player that will battle with a big heart and with talent. Think he suits us and our style perfectly. Very exciting signing. 17 Yellow cards in 3 full seasons for Milan and just the single Red. Declan Rice has 15, Rodri has 16 and Fabhino has 24 in their last 3 seasons respectively . In comparison Bruno has 11 in 1½ seasons for us. Joelinton has 30 4 full season. These are just league stats obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Solitude20 said: I read some folks in social media say we are overpaying for him. I went back to Milan fans comments at the early stages when it was just a rumor and for 50m, they all said this bid is too pathetic and too low for one of the best midfielders in Seria A, and they would reply with a pic of their left nut, now we increase it by 20m and we see others say we are overpaying? He just turned 23 last month, and Eddie will make him a world class midfielder. This reminds me of 2012 when Verratti chose the PSG project over staying at Seria A, and he ended up as one of their legends. Folks don’t know shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mazzy said: 17 Yellow cards in 3 full seasons for Milan and just the single Red. Declan Rice has 15, Rodri has 16 and Fabhino has 24 in their last 3 seasons respectively . In comparison Bruno has 11 in 1½ seasons for us. Joelinton has 30 4 full season. These are just league stats obviously. Big Joe got 20 of those 30 post Christmas this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yes. It’s cuntese for ‘defensive midfielder’. Double-pivot is twatlish for ‘a pair of defensive or deep lying central midfielders’ I'm not sure why people get so precious about new football terminology. Double pivot is just a more precise way of what you've described in three lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 We probably are overpaying a bit, but who cares? It's not like it's coming out of my pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 We grossly underpaid on Bruno so it probably evens its self out in the midfield department. The market for midfielders has appreciated immensely in the last 2 years and there’s nothing to say Tonali isn’t worth the price we’re paying for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: We probably are overpaying a bit, but who cares? It's not like it's coming out of my pocket. Way of the world and why it was always a bit harsh to criticise some of the fees Man Utd used to pay back in the day. If clubs don’t want to sell their prize asset and fan favourite but the player makes it clear he’s happy to go like in this case they’ll always demand above going rate. Let’s see when the deal if it gets done what the actual figures are. Italian media are always going to try and make it look like they’ve ripped us off. Same way our lot will report much lower figures. Often the truth sometimes in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenties Unlaced Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm not sure why people get so precious about new football terminology. Double pivot is just a more precise way of what you've described in three lines. Soon I think their partnership will just be known as the "Bruno Tonali"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Let’s see if we have overpaid when he’s lifting the European Cup in May 2025. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, madras said: Bruno was a pivot last seasonbut I wouldn't have said he was a defensive midfielder. I see the confusion here comes from the fact that people understand those terms differently. I think they refer to a holding midfielder, a midfielder who stays deep when the entire team moves up when we have the ball. I saw a good tactics video in youtube a while back that explains this very well(can’t find it now). The idea is to have at least 3 players at the back when we have possession in order to protect against a sudden counterattack, as having only two players at the back can leave us vulnerable. So if you are playing with 4 at the back, those three would be the 2 central defenders and a holding midfielder. In case you are playing with 3 at the back, those 3 defenders will stay at the back and there will be no need for a holding midfielder. Our tactic last season was unique in the sense that Burn pretty much played as a 3rd center back rather than a traditional left back (and Botman was in center), this pretty much allowed Bruno to move up and not stick to the holding role. I don’t know how our tactic will look like next season if we bring in a more traditional leftback. Then, a holding midfielder would be necessary. Interestingly, Tonali played that role when he was at Brescia. He was a regista, and he was usually considered the next Pirlo. However his role changed when he moved to Milan. Let’s see what Eddie has in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I'm not sure why people get so precious about new football terminology. Double pivot is just a more precise way of what you've described in three lines. I’m not precious, I’m only kidding The ‘pivot’ to me is an evolved version of the sweeper / libero. It describes a deep-lying playmaker. A creative ‘no. 6’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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