SteV Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Anyone seen Chiesa play in the last 2 years? How does he look after his ACLs? Asking for the 3rd time ? He’s only started 9 games since being out for 10 months (and a couple of those at wing back) so in a way it’s probably not a question that would result in an answer that gives much clarity either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: How long ago was his injury? First game back was November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: How long ago was his injury? 9th January, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: Anyone seen Chiesa play in the last 2 years? How does he look after his ACLs? Asking for the 3rd time ? He hasn't played a whole lot, mainly coming off the bench. Understandably doesn't look as sharp, but we'll probably no more after he gets a full pre-season under his belt. Definetly brings a bit of risk to the table, but sounds like he's available at a relatively knock down fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said: Faustino Asprilla Used to play with Chiesa’s dad, of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I wonder if there was any talks when signing Tonali that we’d bring in another Italian to help him settle, a bit like the Joelinton / Bruno situation last year? Easy to say I kna, but you never know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, SteV said: He’s only started 9 games since being out for 10 months (and a couple of those at wing back) so in a way it’s probably not a question that would result in an answer that gives much clarity either way. Wingback? That’s Allegri for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Once linked Noa Lang off to PSV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, black_n_white said: I wonder if there was any talks when signing Tonali that we’d bring in another Italian to help him settle, a bit like the Joelinton / Bruno situation last year? Easy to say I kna, but you never know? I think it’s more likely we’ve just identified Italy as a potential market we can exploit this summer as most of the major teams there aren’t in the best of financial positions (compared to PL teams). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Toon88 said: 2 goals in last 21 games. Having said that, he’s still recovering, and that’s why we have a chance, and others might be hesitant. There’s Barnes, Lundstrom, Diaby, Spertysan…….. and then there’s f***ing Federico Chiesa!!!! Now that’s what we should be targetting. Elite level, that is not just a small upgrade on what we already have. Yes, the injury was bad, but the potential & ceiling of Chiesa is levels above the rest. Must try and get this done. - and there it is. Wants ASM sold because he's a crock to bring in a bigger crock that will cost fortune as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hakka said: - and there it is. Wants ASM sold because he's a crock to bring in a bigger crock that will cost fortune as well. I’d rather have a world class crock, than a bang average crock. He’s also probably quite affordable, given the Italian market, hence why we are shopping there. Edited July 7, 2023 by Toon88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Toon88 said: I’d rather have a world class crock, than a bang average crock. He’s also probably quite affordable, given the Italian market, hence why we are shopping there. The fuck is this take? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, hakka said: - and there it is. Wants ASM sold because he's a crock to bring in a bigger crock that will cost fortune as well. I don't think its unreasonable to say that Chiesa (40+ caps, multiple CL appearances) has a higher ceiling than ASM (zero caps, little if any CL experience) and swapping one for the other is hardly a daft idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 is Chiesa actually injury prone or has he just had a shockingly bad injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) One shocking injury, is all. Edited July 7, 2023 by Toon88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just picking last season (post major injury for Chiesa), Chiesa missed 75 days, Maxi 81 days. So they're not miles apart. Having said that, 26 of those for Chiesa were "fitness" while he recovered from that massive knee injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I don't think its unreasonable to say that Chiesa (40+ caps, multiple CL appearances) has a higher ceiling than ASM (zero caps, little if any CL experience) and swapping one for the other is hardly a daft idea I was just being facetious towards a specific person because of some dialogue around ASM being a crock this week. I'm a fan of Chiesa and trust Howe and the team to do the diligence around his injury/fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Prophet said: He hasn't played a whole lot, mainly coming off the bench. Understandably doesn't look as sharp, but we'll probably no more after he gets a full pre-season under his belt. Definetly brings a bit of risk to the table, but sounds like he's available at a relatively knock down fee. Scored two in Juve’s last three league games. Also scored for Italy a couple of weeks ago against Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Collage said: Scored two in Juve’s last three league games. Also scored for Italy a couple of weeks ago against Holland. Yeah, but how much tracking back does he do? does he have the fitness to press in Howe's system? Can he adapt to Howe's demands? You know the stuff we moan about ASM not being able to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) Worst of all, Chiesa has a huffy face about him. Edited July 7, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Out of the wingers we've been linked with, injury or not, Chiesa is by far the best. It sounds like he wouldn't cost a fortune either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Worst of all, Chiesa has a huffy face about him. Can he smile at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, St1pe said: Haven’t watched much Serie A in recent years but saw him for Italy. Why would Juve sell? Why would Milan sell Tonali? But they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, morpeth mag said: Can he smile at all? Only if he’s not playing for Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Chiesa is a risk but that's why he's available to us at all. Would be fucking class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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