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I don’t understand the logic of posts saying we’re no better than last season - of course we are. Tonali’s back and we don’t have 13 players injured for 2 months. 
 

We don’t lack quality or even now (in my view) depth - we lack momentum because last season was a rotter, we’re not in Europe and we haven’t made a big news signing.

 

Im happy for us to be underestimated by the usual rent-a-bleat former players who wouldn’t know adequate subject matter expertise if it teabagged them live on air. 

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7 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

But we are stronger than the team that finished 4th in 22/23.

 

I've seen some smart people mention us right after Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool and that's how I see it myself. If we can stay relatively fit for the season I'll be disappointed if we don't finish at least close to 4th or 5th and that final CL spot. Lack of Europe is a real edge on the league standings although you always want to be there. 

 

The teams that finished around us then are also stronger than their respective teams in 22-23. I'd love to think we're shoe-ins for top 6 as it stands right now but without a CB and/or RW coming in within the next 10-11 days I can't see us as such. Until then I just can't be confident about it and understand why others not connected to NUFC aren't.

 

 

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Personnel wise we are better than last season for certain. Tonali was a very big miss and Kelly looks a good upgrade ion Lascelles.

 

The question in fact lies on Howe. People assuming with a fresh team we can play like THAT season again hence we can finish top 4. That’s a big assumption, and also that’s why so many people are frustrated by the performance against Soton - we still looks like the team at the end of last season

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3 minutes ago, Zero said:

The question in fact lies on Howe. People assuming with a fresh team we can play like THAT season again hence we can finish top 4. That’s a big assumption, and also that’s why so many people are frustrated by the performance against Soton - we still looks like the team at the end of last season

 

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56 minutes ago, gdm said:

I keep seeing that we can’t possibly do worse than last year because we won’t have the same injuries. Reality is a bad bruno, Isak or pope injury and we are fucked. We don’t have the quality in depth 


Liverpool don’t and haven’t had reasonable replacements for Salah, Van Dijk, or Alisson. When you have stars it’s not really feasible to have like for like replacements.

 

And the other part is that’s just a reality of our situation. We could have paid £30m each for two strikers; instead we went big on Isak. 
 

For a variety of reasons we’ve become a bit imbalanced in terms of where we’ve invested / have depth, but for the most part this problem is largely a function of the glass ceiling that’s in place.

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Terrible window unless something magical happens the next ten days. 
mandag even the bringing players in with no time to gel is not optimal for a club aiming for the top. 
 

The fact that Amanda and Mehrdad left so suddenly doesn’t sit right. 

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6 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

The general media predictions have been shocking, like.

 

I'd expect us to be 4th/5th even if it's just Guehi coming in - no way do Villa maintain last season, there are new Liverpool/Chelsea managers + ten Hag still exists.

Ten Hag the bloke who’s won 2 trophies think he will prove a lot wrong this season.

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7 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

The general media predictions have been shocking, like.

 

I'd expect us to be 4th/5th even if it's just Guehi coming in - no way do Villa maintain last season, there are new Liverpool/Chelsea managers + ten Hag still exists.

Liverpool squad is still way better than us. City, Arsenal, Liverpool top 3. After that it is close, but can we beat all of those others and be 4th? I would say no we cannot without new signings.

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6 hours ago, Pata said:

 

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It could be a compliment to Howe, if you think our team is not good enough for a top 6 finish. I am just pointing out that a lot of people here still think we should play like the top 4 season, and use that as a benchmark for predicting this years results 

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7 hours ago, gdm said:

genuinely shocked at the amount of people saying Spurs will get top 4. Ange can only play one way and it’ll get found it. They’ve made decent signings but Son looks shadow of the player that linked up with Kane for fun 


Hasn’t proved he can organise a defence has he. I like the predictions, gives us plenty chance to go under the radar and prove people wrong at the same time.

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Villa are our real rivals I think. They looked really good the other day and when they broight subs on they were still as good.

Emery is a top manager, we have to hope that europe tires them...

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Chris Waugh in the athletic recycling the same names for the 10th week in a row in Elanga, Madueke and Gonzalez.

 

Also mentions Gomes and Chalobah as alternatives to Guehi. Also says Vlachodimos may leave on loan.

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6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Chris Waugh in the athletic recycling the same names for the 10th week in a row in Elanga, Madueke and Gonzalez.

 

Also mentions Gomes and Chalobah as alternatives to Guehi. Also says Vlachodimos may leave on loan.

 

The complete fear of looking into the European market for a defender is very odd - there is some good buys to be had. At a time where the French league is looking for TV rights, players can be had for cheap!

 

Joe Gomez and Chalobah ffs

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12 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

The complete fear of looking into the European market for a defender is very odd - there is some good buys to be had. At a time where the French league is looking for TV rights, players can be had for cheap!

 

Joe Gomez and Chalobah ffs

If there are any CB possibles in France we will be well placed/informed to know about them. 

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Wasn’t too keen on Chalobah from what I’d seen, seems to have a mistake or 2 in him. Had a little look, Chelsea fans look as though they like him, he’s 6’4”, looks quick enough and scores the occasional goal. A lot of his hi-lights show recovery runs. Looks like he could be an Eddie type player. At this point I’d consider 30M for him and walk away from Guéhi.


 

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23 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

The complete fear of looking into the European market for a defender is very odd - there is some good buys to be had. At a time where the French league is looking for TV rights, players can be had for cheap!

 

Joe Gomez and Chalobah ffs

 

Which is weird because 4 of our 5 'purples' (Isak, Bruno, Tonali, Botman) never had the apparently crucial PL experience Howe apparently is pushing for. 

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9 hours ago, gdm said:

genuinely shocked at the amount of people saying Spurs will get top 4. Ange can only play one way and it’ll get found it. They’ve made decent signings but Son looks shadow of the player that linked up with Kane for fun 

 

Spurs have an average attack. They wasted incredible money for Solanke, plus Son is old and Johnson and Kulusevski are average and Werner is bad. The only one class forward is Odobert (a true talent). The rest of the team is good, but without the forward line they are not top 4 material. You have a better team.

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