STM Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Toon1984 said: I swear some people would be happier now if we’d signed a couple of players in this window not capable of holding down a first team place, now or in the future. Our strategy on transfers is quality, not quantity and it has clearly been working. Because of PSR we cannot afford to make one mistake in signing a wrong (expensive) player, whereas the likes of ManU can, repeatedly, and still beat us to signings because they can pay more. It’s very unfair but that’s the way it is. NUFC needs to be smart in the transfer market and we are. Totally agree. We also tend to sign better players than we are linked with. I remember a time when most of us would have taken Lingard and Tarkowski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Assuming we are looking at similar profiles to Pedro, Cunha etc, any suggestions on who/where we go next? Pretty unique profile so struggling with any names. Might require two separate players instead. Or a CM and a right winger who can cover up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, STM said: I really struggle with you TCD. Sometimes I like what you say but there's times like this when I feel its utter waffle. "No evidence" we were strongly interested in the 4 players you mentioned either then. Again we are back to this thing where you pick and choose which things to believe and then dismiss others perceptions of the situation. "Not a good look?" To whom? Internet bellends like us? You do realise this is all horseshit right? To the wider viewing public we ain't no laughing stiock, in fact we've been roundly praised for our transfer business. We didn't sign Elanga or Trafford last year because of PSR constraints. We nearly did but decided it wasn't smart, given the costs. (Again, that's my perception, I might be wrong, no problem). If you mean how long it takes to negotiate a fee, we'll i entirely disagree, all clubs take their time because they try to save money, rather than to get deals done super quick to appease impatient fans. Think about how ridiculous that is by the way? "I want you to pay x millions more to get the deal done now, oh but by the way when we are skint in the next two years I'll be back to criticise you for that and tell you its 'not a good look'". We aren't that important. No string links to Grealish and Rice. Elanga, Trafford, Guehi, Mbeumo, Joao Pedro, Delap, Cunha. These have all been strongly linked. Some of the most reputable journalists on the planet have reported bids for most of these. Not landing any of them so far - isn’t a great look. You won’t land all your targets and there’s reasons for everything. I’ll add Kelly and Tosin. In the last 2 years I think those are all the players we’ve been linked too the strongest. We’ve landed 1 of them so far. again there are reasons for everything. In 2+ years we’ve landed 1 first team target. Take a step back. That’s not a great endorsement of the entire management of the club top to just before Howe. Add to that no concrete news on stadium or training ground. No point spending more time this Sunday morning on this. We have different views on business, PIF and everything. Enjoy the day pal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, STM said: Kluivert. Decent shout, looking at another massive fee considering Bournemouth don't need to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Even though we have priority positions, I do feel like our strategy is more something like... "For the price, is this person a quality long term investment?" I don't think we have issues going foreign, but they need to be as guaranteed as possible for us to do it. It will be very much known European talent that other clubs like Chelsea have passed on for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Might require two separate players instead. Or a CM and a right winger who can cover up top. Yeh. It’s the profile I liked most about Pedro. There’s no obvious backup in the league of that same profile. Might require 2 players or someone from left field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Apparently Chelsea are also looking at getting Kudus in too . I live in hope that at least one player rejects them, for the love of God. If not, cool. Another clown for their circus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Andrey Santos still not getting any minutes for Chelsea, he had a great season in France last year and we scouted him at Vasco. Still only 21 Brazilian and would be perfect cover for this season, we should be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Apparently Chelsea are also looking at getting Kudus in too . I live in hope that at least one player rejects them, for the love of God. If not, cool. Another clown for their circus. Another player we've missed out on. PIF clearly not interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No string links to Grealish and Rice. Elanga, Trafford, Guehi, Mbeumo, Joao Pedro, Delap, Cunha. These have all been strongly linked. Some of the most reputable journalists on the planet have reported bids for most of these. Not landing any of them so far - isn’t a great look. You won’t land all your targets and there’s reasons for everything. I’ll add Kelly and Tosin. In the last 2 years I think those are all the players we’ve been linked too the strongest. We’ve landed 1 of them so far. again there are reasons for everything. In 2+ years we’ve landed 1 first team target. Take a step back. That’s not a great endorsement of the entire management of the club top to just before Howe. Add to that no concrete news on stadium or training ground. No point spending more time this Sunday morning on this. We have different views on business, PIF and everything. Enjoy the day pal. bet you don't have a clue about the clubs business! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Andrey Santos still not getting any minutes for Chelsea, he had a great season in France last year and we scouted him at Vasco. Still only 21 Brazilian and would be perfect cover for this season, we should be all over it. We wanted him before he went to Chelsea i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Just now, SUPERTOON said: We wanted him before he went to Chelsea i think. We did came very close to getting him and Nickson is a big fan, been brilliant for Strasbourg this season and Chelsea haven’t gave him any minutes in this shit world club cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, McCormick said: Apparently Chelsea are also looking at getting Kudus in too . I live in hope that at least one player rejects them, for the love of God. If not, cool. Another clown for their circus. They will break football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Winston Bogarde was a visionary clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I like Andrew Santos a lot from what I’ve seen of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Howe did work miracles last year winning our first domestic trophy in 70 years. Playing almost all the top seven in doing so defeating arsenal away in the first leg of the semi final which majority of us thought it would be a tough ask even for a draw. Playing Liverpool in the final who we don't beat very often without botman hall and gordon at our disposal and went into it massive underdogs. It was a miracle to me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Not sure what else the club can do tbh. If another club comes in with a higher bid, offers higher wages, then we’re fucked. We’ve clearly been able to sell the ‘project’ to certain players but others just will always go where the £££’s are. Clubs aren’t going to do us favours, especially if they don’t need to sell. Seemingly they (or the players agent) make it known we’re after player x to drive up more interest, why wouldn’t they? And if a high profile club with bottomless pockets are interested, we’re likely, fucked. Can’t even blame Chelsea really, they didn’t set these rules. (Onboard with them being total cunts though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Someone can correct me on this, but it appears, your Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea are buying, but many others aren't, yet. No coincidence it's the teams who can throw money around, all the years of fixing has facilitated that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Brighton signed Charalampos Kostoulas for £30m. A striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: Someone can correct me on this, but it appears, your Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea are buying, but many others aren't, yet. No coincidence it's the teams who can throw money around, all the years of fixing has facilitated that. And that’s while up and coming teams like Brentford and Bournemouth weaken. PSR working a treat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: We were never seriously looking at Grealish or Rice. There’s no evidence of strong links to either. Several of these players we’ve been chasing for years. Still having protracted sagas to get them signed or not. It’s just not a good look. I’m personally not overly worried. Particularly when we are gazumped by others. But the protracted nature of the Elanga and Trafford deal don’t reflect well on those meant to be closing deals. And again - the uncertainty around the clubs management - isn’t a great reflection of the leadership either. We can only judge the window at the end. There’s some positive indicators in our approach but a lot of negative indicators too. I share these concerns tbh. It seems like we are fighting losing battles going in for these players, but we have to give it a shot I suppose. The crucial part is what our back up plans are. Hopefully we've got cards to play which we are keeping closer to our chest, but we aren't going to know that until the window has closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, STM said: Fuck off you entitled little bellends. This is the best it’s ever been for me and I went to my first game in 1994. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago We sign Trafford and maybe one more. If we’re lucky. Howe must be pulling his hair out - performed near miracles with a fairly stale squad and asked for the recruitment to be quick and precise - he’s been badly let down. Piss poor from the club so far this summer. The word rudderless has been said a few times on here because it’s absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, BennyBlanco said: We sign Trafford and maybe one more. If we’re lucky. Howe must be pulling his hair out - performed near miracles with a fairly stale squad and asked for the recruitment to be quick and precise - he’s been badly let down. Piss poor from the club so far this summer. The word rudderless has been said a few times on here because it’s absolutely spot on. I understand the sentiment but can he be? It's kinda obvious these are his targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: We sign Trafford and maybe one more. If we’re lucky. Howe must be pulling his hair out - performed near miracles with a fairly stale squad and asked for the recruitment to be quick and precise - he’s been badly let down. Piss poor from the club so far this summer. The word rudderless has been said a few times on here because it’s absolutely spot on. I would have thought Howe is in full charge of who we go after this summer, I’m not sure who else it could be right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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