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Just now, Memphis said:

Related to Hojlund and some other targets, for me you cannot separate the signing from the club making it. Hojlund has been a disaster because he was dropped into a fucking cesspool with no consistent coaching, constant turmoil, fan unrest, etc. There's a reason why so many of their signings - pretty much all of them - went to shit. They weren't all shitty signings. They were signings in a shitty situation and had little chance to succeed. Look at Chelsea's array of wonder talents who arrived and immediately struggled. 

Take, for example, Joelinton. Big signing, lots of money, etc. Dropped into a shithole with fuck-all for a manager and no idea how to use him, fans on him immediately b/c he's an example of how inept the manager/club are. You get some stability around the club, new ownership, new manager, better environment and ideas, and the guy turns into a bargain.

 

The opposite is true of a club like Brighton, for example. Very clear identity, very clear method of using players, very stable situation where a player can generally thrive and end up much improved in a season or two. Would Baleba, Mitoma, Caicedo, Trossard, Mac Allister, etc have made the impact they did had they signed in a situation like Hojlund or Big Joe? Doubtful. You cannot separate the signing from the team signing them.

THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF SIGNING HOJLUND BTW. I didn't rate him before and still don't. 

Agreed

id be okay with Hojlund as the Osula replacement with Osula going out on loan

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13 minutes ago, Memphis said:

Related to Hojlund and some other targets, for me you cannot separate the signing from the club making it. Hojlund has been a disaster because he was dropped into a fucking cesspool with no consistent coaching, constant turmoil, fan unrest, etc. There's a reason why so many of their signings - pretty much all of them - went to shit. They weren't all shitty signings. They were signings in a shitty situation and had little chance to succeed. Look at Chelsea's array of wonder talents who arrived and immediately struggled. 

Take, for example, Joelinton. Big signing, lots of money, etc. Dropped into a shithole with fuck-all for a manager and no idea how to use him, fans on him immediately b/c he's an example of how inept the manager/club are. You get some stability around the club, new ownership, new manager, better environment and ideas, and the guy turns into a bargain.

 

The opposite is true of a club like Brighton, for example. Very clear identity, very clear method of using players, very stable situation where a player can generally thrive and end up much improved in a season or two. Would Baleba, Mitoma, Caicedo, Trossard, Mac Allister, etc have made the impact they did had they signed in a situation like Hojlund or Big Joe? Doubtful. You cannot separate the signing from the team signing them.

THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF SIGNING HOJLUND BTW. I didn't rate him before and still don't. 


yep, 100%. It’s why I’m genuinely confident in any signing Howe supports 

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16 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Are you really expecting highly paid expert opinions on a fan site?

 

 

 

Just find it interesting when people say they like the look of someone or that we should have signed someone purely based on YouTube

 

I'd hazard a guess 99% of the forum won't have watched a Nice or Rennes game last season (including myself)

 

 

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24 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’re not considering Hojlund FFS. 

We wouldn't get him even if we were considering it.

 

Im sure Manchester will play silly buggers with us just like they did when we tried to sign Lingard from them. Which makes it a non-starter.

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2 minutes ago, Jewel said:

We wouldn't get him even if we were considering it.

 

Im sure Manchester will play silly buggers with us just like they did when we tried to sign Lingard from them. Which makes it a non-starter.

 

With Hojlund?  They'd be like Bruce signing his contract in the Squires cartoon, man :lol:

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cant get to Friday afternoon and still planning to play Gordon upfront vs Liverpool. I think new transfer need to be registered by Friday afternoon to be eligible.

 

seriously is Vardy still a free agent? get him on a trial or sign him for one game then release him. 

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53 minutes ago, LFEE said:

I’m going to have YT this lad as what I’ve seen of him in the Euros he was more like Chris Wood/Peter Crouch than Isak in terms of style :lol:


Nothing like Isak!? Sticking with my Wood/Crouch comparison. Think I run quicker at my age :lol:

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If we’re honest, Isak has a decent turn of pace but he’s not very fast. Not quicker than Gordon and Murphy. Doubt he’s quicker than Tino. That’s something to bear in mind when watching Woltemade who is also, not blisteringly quick.  Very good feet and hold up play though. Better in tight spaces than Isak, but that’s playing in the Bundesliga.

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Not just his goals in this one but also some clips of him coming deep to link up with midfield before bringing the wide players in, something we could do with to release Gordon and Elanga on the counter.

 

His movement in the box is what is most impressive, which isn’t shown that well in this one.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

 

Not just his goals in this one but also some clips of him coming deep to link up with midfield before bringing the wide players in, something we could do with to release Gordon and Elanga on the counter.

 

His movement in the box is what is most impressive, which isn’t shown that well in this one.

 

 

 

Surely Wolves aren't selling their main striker now though?

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1 hour ago, David Edgar said:

Hojlund? 

 

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Im Not No Way GIF

I wouldn't look into them stats too much mind 😂 man utd were 15th played some terrible football, he was on a hiding to nothing.

man utd have a tendancy to make good players look absolutely shit. 

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