NUFC Transfer Rumours

[oldtype]

5 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

I can’t imagine there will be much activity until until after the tournament

Not everyone we're targeting will be at the tournament and if they're not there's no reason signing can't get done. I don't see it as a huge issue.

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Pretty much why I am still on the fence about Howe staying for next season. I still can't see how buying young technical players will fit into the system he's used for the past couple of years. He'll have to change how we play, or buy better versions of Elangas/Wissas etc.

 

But who knows. Maybe he's already planning on revamping our style next season and he is confident he can work with different type of forwards. I guess we'll find out. 

Lots of good players are technical and have physical attributes. I keep using the Rayan lad compared to Elanga.  
 

Bruno plays for us - he’s the main ball progressor for Brazil NT. Hall flourishes. Relatively great players would struggle under Howe.  

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Has Bruno changed his game since he joined? I'm sure he plays the percentages and looks to buy more fouls now than in his early days. 

 

The argument isn't that physical and technical attributes can not be in the same player, but rather the manager puts greater emphasis on the physical and in their system than allowing the technical attributes to shine.

 

Pep was criticised for this with the likes of Grealish and Howe is cut from a similar cloth

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Hmm, not sure, he always invited contact from opponents even when he first arrived. Tries to roll them etc. 

 

Maybe he's doing it more very recently because the team is struggling and he's trying to create some breathing space. 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Has Bruno changed his game since he joined? I'm sure he plays the percentages and looks to buy more fouls now than in his early days. 

 

The argument isn't that physical and technical attributes can not be in the same player, but rather the manager puts greater emphasis on the physical and in their system than allowing the technical attributes to shine.

 

Pep was criticised for this with the likes of Grealish and Howe is cut from a similar cloth

Guardiola’s style is boringly technical - Grealish didn’t fit because he ultimately isn’t good enough and is unprofessional to boot.  
 

Tiki-taka was always about all retention.  If there is a criticism of Guardiola’s style, it’s that he’s always signed the most technical players possible and then reined in their creativity, favouring ball retention at all costs.  Pep’s sides defend in the opponents half with ball retention.  
 

Howe’s style of play is nothing like Pep’s - it’s all gegenpressing stuff, requiring athletes.  The problems started when teams started playing against us like they would any top side - and sitting back.   Howe had no answers to it - which is why our record against midtable sides over the last few years is relegation form (not hyperbole).  It works against the best sides when we can play as underdogs, and we tend to be ok against the bottom sides as we have enough quality to overwhelm them. 

[Andy84]

Interesting where we go next. I’m worried about our forward options, lack of quality there that needs addressed 

[DC Magpie]

6 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Pretty much why I am still on the fence about Howe staying for next season. I still can't see how buying young technical players will fit into the system he's used for the past couple of years. He'll have to change how we play, or buy better versions of Elangas/Wissas etc.

 

But who knows. Maybe he's already planning on revamping our style next season and he is confident he can work with different type of forwards. I guess we'll find out. 

 

I hope he's planning to revamp the style, but I don't think he will because he knows full well that he cannot have another slow start to the season next year.

 

I think Eddie will think it's too big a risk to implement something new if it means early growing pains, some early losses. He'll stick with the style and approach he knows, I think. It's his ride or die. And I'm really not sure I can take another year watching us crossing the ball into an empty box.

[KaKa]

Eddie Howe is a pressing and high tempo football manager. He cannot suddenly change into a possession football manager. Managers have their philosophies that they largely stick by.

 

He needs to do a better job of signing players with better technical ability and ball retention that are still capable of playing the style of football he prefers. These players are out there. He has been limiting himself massively by leaning towards Prem experience more recently, looking for guarantees, that ultimately didn't pan out.

 

The main issue of late has been the recruitment IMO. Get that sorted and the rest should follow.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Guardiola’s style is boringly technical - Grealish didn’t fit because he ultimately isn’t good enough and is unprofessional to boot.  
 

Tiki-taka was always about all retention.  If there is a criticism of Guardiola’s style, it’s that he’s always signed the most technical players possible and then reined in their creativity, favouring ball retention at all costs.  Pep’s sides defend in the opponents half with ball retention.  
 

Howe’s style of play is nothing like Pep’s - it’s all gegenpressing stuff, requiring athletes.  The problems started when teams started playing against us like they would any top side - and sitting back.   Howe had no answers to it - which is why our record against midtable sides over the last few years is relegation form (not hyperbole).  It works against the best sides when we can play as underdogs, and we tend to be ok against the bottom sides as we have enough quality to overwhelm them. 

 

Yeah it's not a comparison on style of play, but rather they both are real system managers which restricts either the type of player they target or restricts the player from playing their natural game.

 

Football in general is rapidly going/has gone that way but Pep and Howe are real heavy players

[black_n_white]

7 hours ago, Andy84 said:

Interesting where we go next. I’m worried about our forward options, lack of quality there that needs addressed 

Good job we have 170 million pounds of talent waiting in the wings for next season to address the forward options then…

[Sidg]

One of those Euro journos who never seems to get owt right (Nicolo Schira) reckons we're close to bidding for that Arthur Atta if anybody would care for a crumb of probable bullshit. Looks slow but extremely tidy with his feet.

[Stal]

14 minutes ago, Sidg said:

One of those Euro journos who never seems to get owt right (Nicolo Schira) reckons we're close to bidding for that Arthur Atta if anybody would care for a crumb of probable bullshit. Looks slow but extremely tidy with his feet.

 

Bloke who shouts "where's me washboard?"?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

18 minutes ago, Sidg said:

One of those Euro journos who never seems to get owt right (Nicolo Schira) reckons we're close to bidding for that Arthur Atta if anybody would care for a crumb of probable bullshit. Looks slow but extremely tidy with his feet.

 

Is close to bidding after monitoring?

[Funtime Frankie]

25 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Is close to bidding after monitoring?

Then comes signed for another Premier League club.

[Kimbo]

50 minutes ago, Sidg said:

One of those Euro journos who never seems to get owt right (Nicolo Schira) reckons we're close to bidding for that Arthur Atta if anybody would care for a crumb of probable bullshit. Looks slow but extremely tidy with his feet.

He looks a lovely player tbh.

[Viana]

1 hour ago, Kimbo said:

He looks a lovely player tbh.

Yeah, lots of nice little touches and skills. He seems quite similar to Jacob Ramsey; a left-sided 8 who wants to carry the ball and slalom through spaces.

[DC Magpie]

6 hours ago, Sidg said:

Looks slow but extremely tidy with his feet.

 

Oh Lordy. We have one of those already, don't we?

[kingxlnc]

Chiesa available for 18m. Worth the stab at RW / LW?

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Chiesa available for 18m. Worth the stab at RW / LW?

No, he’s not good enough for this league.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

That Sithole from South Africa looks a player. Might need to be quick to fend off competition.

[gdm]

22 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Chiesa available for 18m. Worth the stab at RW / LW?

god no

[Mattoon]

6 minutes ago, gdm said:

god no

 

Chiesa looked amazing until his injury, he's damaged goods now

[STM]

If Liverpool dont take the option on Freddie Woodman, he'd be perfect 3rd choice keeper. Homegrown if we got back into europe too. 

[lovejoy]

Just now, STM said:

If Liverpool dont take the option on Freddie Woodman, he'd be perfect 3rd choice keeper. Homegrown if we got back into europe too. 

I was wondering if we’d go back for darlow to fulfill the john ruddy role but he’s going to Man Utd.

[Toon No9]

Gonzalo Garcia from Real Madrid would be interesting. Saw a link via teamtalk, don't know if it's anything in it.

 

22 year old striker who's looking for more gametime.