The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: I agree, but, consider situations where let's say West Ham sell Paqueta for 90m to City, I could easily see them buying a player like Joelinton for 40m They need another baller like Paqueta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I don't know if any of them are "really good players". 1 of them can't even stay it. None of them have excellent reputations in the game in comparison to a Nathan Ake. I think we need a top CB/LB. A Nathan Ake would actually be perfect for us especially if Howe wants to stick to the same profile as Burn. If we sell multiple squad players - bringing in cheap squad players is a good idea. Yeah, I get it. People don't pay attention to most players till they move to better clubs and start doing well. Spurs and Liverpool look to be snooping around Kelly and Tosin. Let's see how the narrative changes when they end up at one of those and start doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Fully onboard with the club picking up some free transfers to pad out the squad, as long as they are the right profile. We can then sell players under contract to boost first team signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: They need another baller like Paqueta. They have Kudus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: They have Kudus. They need one in the middle like Paqueta. He's like their Bruno, he progresses them up the field with guile and is the only one who puts a foot on the ball for them. I wasn't sure on Paqueta when we were linked but I think he's a top player. He's not Howe-style though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Would rather keep Big Joe than Billing if it's the choice. Big Joe must be possible to sell to clubs in Saudia for a decent sum. Brazil international and a better player than Fabinho was when he was sold for £40m. Not desperate to sell Big Joe, but he strikes me as someone who might be wise to sell now and someone who is possible to get a good sum for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Lloyd Kelly makes some sense, especially given the clear out of squad players we’ll hopefully have in the summer. Billing looked talented as a young player but he never really improved. Now he’s just a 27 year old bench player at Bournemouth. Not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, Krabbe2 said: Would rather keep Big Joe than Billing if it's the choice. Big Joe must be possible to sell to clubs in Saudia for a decent sum. Brazil international and a better player than Fabinho was when he was sold for £40m. Not desperate to sell Big Joe, but he strikes me as someone who might be wise to sell now and someone who is possible to get a good sum for. And watch opposition teams bypassing our midfield with ease on a regular basis? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 27 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: That's a rather generous interpretation of 'Fuck off, Luke, you cunt' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, RS said: And watch opposition teams bypassing our midfield with ease on a regular basis? No thanks. He would obviously be replaced if we sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Yeah I'd have Kelly if we're expecting Lascelles, Dummett and Targett to depart. I know free transfers are never free but he would seem a shrewd signing in those circumstances. Billing to replace Joelinton seems far more underwhelming. I guess it may be that if we have to box clever with funds, then it's an exchange that could bring in decent money to spend elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: He would obviously be replaced if we sold him. Anyone better than him for sale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, RS said: Anyone better than him for sale? I’d imagine so yes, I’m a fan of Joelinton, but to think we couldn’t sign a better player than him is a mad take imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 There are a lot of similarities between Billing and Joelinton in the centre of midfield. I think we overrate Joelinton as fans on his ability in the middle, the best we have seen of him here is wide left with Willock filling the left central midfield slot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Imagine we'll be linked heavily with Onana at Everton again if Joelinton goes. Especially if they get relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Onana and Billing doesn't feel like a proper step forward. Quality before quantity. Waste of money imo. Edited February 12 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Ikon said: Onana and Billing doesn't feel like a proper step forward imo. Quality before quantity imo. Waste of money imo. If we keep Joelinton and Willock then surely it's fine? Bruno Tonali Joelinton Willock Onana/Billing Longstaff Miley/Anderson Even if Longstaff was sold to balance the books for FFP and it pushes Anderson up one, I think that'd be an impressive pool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Onana feels very much like Gordon, in terms of he has a lot of natural talent there, he just hasn't put it all together yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 41 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we keep Joelinton and Willock then surely it's fine? Bruno Tonali Joelinton Willock Onana/Billing Longstaff Miley/Anderson Even if Longstaff was sold to balance the books for FFP and it pushes Anderson up one, I think that'd be an impressive pool. Apart from that it doesn't exactly improve our 1st team. Depth? Yes. Don't see the point of signing players that don't improve our starting 11 properly. Quality is vital imo, and then let some of the current players become backup/squad players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 38 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Onana feels very much like Gordon, in terms of he has a lot of natural talent there, he just hasn't put it all together yet. Personally i don't think he's good enough technically to improve one of our weaknesses properly, like ball retention/possession/passing and press resistance. He would cost more than i think it's worth. He could prove to be a "bargain" but i'd rather see us put our money elsewehere. Edited February 12 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Would Howe even use "depth" players? I thought Livra and earned his trust. But I don't expect him to start any games unless we change shape or someone gets injured. Hope to be proven wrong but it seems like he's just earned himself a regular sub on role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I don't know if any of them are "really good players". 1 of them can't even stay it. None of them have excellent reputations in the game in comparison to a Nathan Ake. I think we need a top CB/LB. A Nathan Ake would actually be perfect for us especially if Howe wants to stick to the same profile as Burn. If we sell multiple squad players - bringing in cheap squad players is a good idea. Ake is one of the best 1 v 1 defenders in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: There are a lot of similarities between Billing and Joelinton in the centre of midfield. I think we overrate Joelinton as fans on his ability in the middle, the best we have seen of him here is wide left with Willock filling the left central midfield slot. Arguably his best performance was as a midfielder against Man U when we drew 1-1 in December 2021, not long after he changed positions. I'm sure there have been plenty of games where he has played in the midfield 3 and been MOTM or close to it this season and Willock has barely played. Chelsea, Man U and Milan all at home he was brilliant in midfield, from memory. Arsenal? I'm sure there are some I've missed. We have certainly missed him since sunderland. A very simplistic way of viewing it saying his best performances come from wide left. The tactical versatility of both players when Willock is on that side meant they would dovetail really well and switch seamlessly between both roles. The joke always being that Joelinton seems to play 2-3 positions at once. Personally think he is far more effective in the box to box role and it's only really his passing that lets him down. Meaning it might see him moved on. Well...... That, FFP and wage demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I know Billing is not as good as Joelinton, but I do think a Billing, Bruno, Tonali midfield is a bit more technical and balanced. Make a profit on Joelinton and spend the profit on a young striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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