BergenMagpie Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 9 minutes ago, cubaricho said: It brings up an interesting proposition when it comes to FFP. I know it never happens, but what if for a FFP workaround, we just swap players instead of buying or selling? Wouldn’t that technically just involve wages for FFP then? Think its exactly the opposite as we would want the extra revenues. If we had sold Isak for 150m and bought two players for 50m each on 5 year deals we would be 130m + before having to deduct Isaks remaining costs It was what happened when Barcelona sold Arthur to Juventus and bought Pjanic from Juventus for basically the same fees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 26 minutes ago, 54 said: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1788145726800699870.html Read that. Thanks for that 54, some very interesting stuff. Hard pass on Conor Gallagher as a Bruno replacement though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 12 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Thanks for that 54, some very interesting stuff. Hard pass on Conor Gallagher as a Bruno replacement though He framed that more as Gallagher as a Longstaff replacement and Tonali would be the Bruno replacement. Not really a scenario I'm ready to think about though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 38 minutes ago, Decky said: If we're to listen to offers for Isak then it has to be pure money up front to help us with FFP and no players. Is Ramsdale much better than Pope? When we upgrade Pope down the line it'll be for someone of much better quality than Ramsdale, so that's a no for me. And Smith Rowe is always bloody injured, a definite no if ever there was one. Makes no difference for FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 11 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: He framed that more as Gallagher as a Longstaff replacement and Tonali would be the Bruno replacement. Not really a scenario I'm ready to think about though. Yeah, still no thanks weaken our midfield isn’t the play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do we even own him yet? Think we did this with Krafth? He was on loan at Amiens, they made it permanent that summer then we signed him a month later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 hours ago, BergenMagpie said: Think its exactly the opposite as we would want the extra revenues. If we had sold Isak for 150m and bought two players for 50m each on 5 year deals we would be 130m + before having to deduct Isaks remaining costs It was what happened when Barcelona sold Arthur to Juventus and bought Pjanic from Juventus for basically the same fees On this with Bruno having a release clause can we still just demand they pay it all up front which may put a few off a bit, or maybe doesn't matter with City so much, or is it better we took installments anyway as spreads the revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Nico Williams is on big money at Bilbao apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: Nico Williams is on big money at Bilbao apparently. My God! 200,000 Euros a week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 56 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: On this with Bruno having a release clause can we still just demand they pay it all up front which may put a few off a bit, or maybe doesn't matter with City so much, or is it better we took installments anyway as spreads the revenue. Id assume the clause is only triggered when paid up front as money we receive in the future is worth less than today due to inflation / reinvestment opportunities We would have to recognise all the revenues at the point of sale regardless if we would be paid up front or in installments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Ah suppose for purpose of PSR wouldn't really matter or if paid longer term on books Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 58 minutes ago, KaKa said: My God! 200,000 Euros a week! Oh wow. I didnt realise BIlbao were capable of those kinds of wages. I'm so sheltered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloNUFC Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Sorry Mr. Couldn't delete ur earlier quote. Any help how to do that? A rumour is a rumour Edited May 8 by HalloNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 41 minutes ago, Pixelphish said: Oh wow. I didnt realise BIlbao were capable of those kinds of wages. I'm so sheltered. I guess they rarely have to spend money on transfers so can pay big wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: Nico Williams is on big money at Bilbao apparently. He'd have to be our top earner and then with a few add ons for goals/assists/UCL qualification/trophy wins etc to get him anywhere near the amount he's on now. Question is, would any club in the world pay him the £250k that's he's getting a week now? Man Utd might do, Chelsea probably, Arsenal potentially. But do any of those clubs actually want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Think the low clause and high wages had a lot to do with his contract about to run out so instead of not getting much money at all or even lose him on a free they were more or less forced to agree to the demands. Think it took quieter long until it was all agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 12 hours ago, The Prophet said: That Maatsen has been decent for them on loan, so surely they would rather pursue that deal to be permanent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 5 hours ago, HalloNUFC said: Sorry Mr. Couldn't delete ur earlier quote. Any help how to do that? A rumour is a rumour Good morning! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 13 hours ago, Mazzy said: He'd have to be our top earner and then with a few add ons for goals/assists/UCL qualification/trophy wins etc to get him anywhere near the amount he's on now. Question is, would any club in the world pay him the £250k that's he's getting a week now? Man Utd might do, Chelsea probably, Arsenal potentially. But do any of those clubs actually want him. Would also need to factor in Spanish higher rate tax is considerably lower than ours iirc so his £200k would need a sizable boost to get the same net pay. Was a fun dream though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Not specifically us, but the same likely applies to us too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 You know it's bad when cowboy Todd is backing away for financial reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Not specifically us, but the same likely applies to us too. You have to pay the release clause in full - another (major) stumbling block Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, Mikky said: You have to pay the release clause in full - another (major) stumbling block Why is it a stumbling block? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 18 minutes ago, STM said: Why is it a stumbling block? Because your budget for the summer is gone in payment towards 1 player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, Mikky said: Because your budget for the summer is gone in payment towards 1 player Naaa. Cash shouldn’t be an issue for us. The owners can pump as much cash as they like (it’s just not counted for FFP). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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