astraguy Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Badly need to sort the defence out with Europe this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 This is pure speculation but I reckon we've got around 80m to play with, meaning we started the window with somewhere in the region of 140m (feels about right to me), with these positions prioritised: CM (Tonali 60m) RW/LW/ Flexible attacker (Barnes 35/40m) LB (Tierney 30m?) CB ( Andersen 40m?) Had Szlob or Diaby been available for 50m, we would have pushed the boat out. Signing Barnes would leave 40m for two positions. Perhaps a LB and a CB might be one step too far in this window but we might be able to get one position nailed down. Alternatively we could sell ASM to raise funds, or Lascelles will go and replenish us somewhat but I certainly feel like this is where we are at. This window was always about strength in depth. If we end the window with 4 quality additions, we've done really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 If we’re looking for a cheap, attacking but defensively solid, LB this window, I keep thinking about Gerardo Arteaga who plays for Gent and also is the starting LB for Mexico. He could be a really astute signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, astraguy said: Badly need to sort the defence out with Europe this season Badly need to sort the defence out? We’ve just come off a season where we conceded the fewest goals in the whole league (joint with the league winners, and a margin of 10 less goals than the next best team). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, astraguy said: Badly need to sort the defence out with Europe this season I can’t tell if this is a joke or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, astraguy said: Badly need to sort the defence out with Europe this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, astraguy said: Badly need to sort the defence out with Europe this season I actually agree with this think there we’re signs towards end of the season that teams were targeting Burn. If we want to play a high line against top teams you also need pace, think back to Liverpool at home and thought Rashford roasted us a few times at Wembley to name just 2 occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I presume he means that our defence is stretched thin. Removing the chaff: LB: Burn, Targett LCB: Botman, Burn RCB: Schar, Lascelles RB: Trippier, Krafth For me, Lascelles sticks out like a sore thumb. I can just about deal with Krafth or Targett playing, provided that our other defenders are available but when you start taking out 2 players, it becomes a bit chronic back there. Let's imagine we had the luxury it signing 3 new defenders: LB: Tierney, Targett LCB: Botman, Burn RCB: Schar, Andersen RB: Trippier, Livramento Now your talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Never underestimate the impact a quality full back can have on a team. The 2 most stand out examples in our recent history are John Beresford and Trippier, completely transformed the team. Now if you added one of the Milan left backs to our team, I think we’d have a completely new dimension to our play next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, STM said: I presume he means that our defence is stretched thin. Removing the chaff: LB: Burn, Targett LCB: Botman, Burn RCB: Schar, Lascelles RB: Trippier, Krafth For me, Lascelles sticks out like a sore thumb. I can just about deal with Krafth or Targett playing, provided that our other defenders are available but when you start taking out 2 players, it becomes a bit chronic back there. Let's imagine we had the luxury it signing 3 new defenders: LB: Tierney, Targett LCB: Botman, Burn RCB: Schar, Andersen RB: Trippier, Livramento Now your talking. You mean play Dummett in midfield? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) What ever happened to Leicesters young left back? Was meant to be promising. Luke Thomas.. Edited July 8, 2023 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Apart from Tierney, which has gone cold, who else have we been solidly linked with at LB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, gbandit said: Apart from Tierney, which has gone cold, who else have we been solidly linked with at LB? Nobody. Which is odd. You'd almost think we weren't looking at left backs. Yet we were linked with Livramento. Sometimes I wonder if the players we'd like, just aren't available. I mean, there's nothing you can do if the quality you want just isn't out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: Apart from Tierney, which has gone cold, who else have we been solidly linked with at LB? Nope, although I think the Tierney link will resurface now that Arsenal are looking to sell players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gbandit said: Apart from Tierney, which has gone cold, who else have we been solidly linked with at LB? Maehle & Federico Dimarco Edited July 8, 2023 by Toon88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I’m sure there must be a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes to do with a LB. It’s the clearest position to upgrade given we have barely any tactical options there. We either have Burn who’s solid defensively but terrible at carrying the ball and completely unsuited to making deep runs. Or, Targett who’s good defensively and will make overlapping runs and put in good crosses but again can’t carry the ball. I’d be genuinely amazed if we aren’t looking at players who can both bring the ball forward comfortably and also make deep overlapping runs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, Manxst said: Badly need to sort the defence out? We’ve just come off a season where we conceded the fewest goals in the whole league (joint with the league winners, and a margin of 10 less goals than the next best team). Schar/botman etc can't be playing every Wednesday and Sunday all season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, astraguy said: Schar/botman etc can't be playing every Wednesday and Sunday all season Agreed that we need some quality cover for injuries and suspensions, but “badly need to sort the defence out” was maybe worded incorrectly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Agreed that we need some quality cover for injuries and suspensions, but “badly need to sort the defence out” was maybe worded incorrectly? No if either of them get injured we are fucked, we had the joint best defence yes but look at man city's cover to ours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 If the Barnes reporting is true I'll be very interested to see if that's the only winger we bring in. Reports were that we wanted a versatile forward and he's really not that. My gut says it's gonna be ASM out and Barnes in, straight swap of out and out LW players that opens up some wiggle room this season in terms of FFP. However, we really don't know. Still holding out hope for Chiesa at RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, astraguy said: No if either of them get injured we are fucked, we had the joint best defence yes but look at man city's cover to ours I think that having “cover” isn’t the same as “badly need to sort the defence out”. But I understand your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Shak said: If the Barnes reporting is true I'll be very interested to see if that's the only winger we bring in. Reports were that we wanted a versatile forward and he's really not that. My gut says it's gonna be ASM out and Barnes in, straight swap of out and out LW players that opens up some wiggle room this season in terms of FFP. However, we really don't know. Still holding out hope for Chiesa at RW. I’d say we’d get more back from Saudi than we spend on Barnes. Might allow some flex on an incoming RCB, LB or RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 There’s a degree of pragmatism with our business, in no small part due to FFP but also because we’re way ahead of expectations on the field. I get the impression we’d much rather do the deal that works for us - even if it’s not necessarily one of the ‘problem’ positions - than buy someone we’re not convinced about to plug a gap. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t get a CB or a LB this window, just because there might not be a deal to be done that makes sense. We’ll just have to wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, gdm said: He will be playing tonight in the u21 final if anyone fancies a bit of Wise scouting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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