NUFC Transfer Rumours

[wyn davies]

Transfer Osula onto right wing , where I think he would be excellent and put Murphy as back up

[nufcjmc]

41 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I don't see Brentford selling Mbeumo for less than 60-70m. Also, why would they.

12months left on contract come summer although may have an option to extend a year is our only hope of getting anything cut price unless they want a player off us to lessen the outlay. But agreed prem proven prime age from a non relegated side it's going to be 50m+. 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by nufcjmc

[Ikon]

1 minute ago, wyn davies said:

Transfer Osula onto right wing , where I think he would be excellent and put Murphy as back up

 

Yeah, let's take away a lot of Isak's supply for his goals. Whoever we get has to have end product AND be good in general play imo. Preferably with some guile/creativity.

[Ikon]

2 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

12months left on contract come summer although may have an option to extend a year is our only hope of getting anything cut price unless they want a player off us to lessen the outlay. But agreed prem proven prime age from a non relegated side it's going to be 50m+. 

 

 

 

 

Aye, i'm pretty certain that it's getting/been extended.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Left field but I'd take a punt at a few million on Viptonik at Swansea, he's basically Mitro lite but Slovenian rather than Serbian.

 

He's not going to be a 20 goal a season player but he's got potential to be a decent mobile target man

[Kanj]

50 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I don't see Brentford selling Mbeumo for less than 60-70m. Also, why would they.

 

I believe their model is to sell. 

[Ikon]

10 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

I believe their model is to sell. 

Aye, might be to a degree. I just dont see them selling for as low as the 50m or whatever it is that has been thrown around. 

[Mikky]

Ivan Toney went for £38m you’d think Mbuemo would be around £45m

[The College Dropout]

Brentford’s model is seemingly to run a cheap profitable(?) PL club. They don’t sell big or sell often. 

[ponsaelius]

1 hour ago, Ikon said:

I don't see Brentford selling Mbeumo for less than 60-70m. Also, why would they.

 

Because ultimately their model requires selling. They were nearly burnt with Toney and asking for too much, ultimately risking losing him for nowt. They got away with it as Saudi bailed them out with a solid fee once his market had collapsed.

 

If they don't sell this summer he will be down to 1 year next year (with club option triggered). I think 40-50 will do it given this is a player they bought for 6.5 million euros.

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Well Man City decided to get a striker who will primarily play with Haaland in Jan. ditto Villa with Watkins and Rashford. Thats the move. We already have that with Gordon and strongest bench player is Gordon’s primary positions backup.  We could do it with a Mbeumo type player too.  
 

The alternatives are have a young player who might develop i to the main man shortly or be sold.  Osula is possibly that. Wouldn’t mind getting another cheap one.  At Delap’s price either he or Isak will need to be sold after 1 year.  Which is a fine strategy imo.  Not every move needs to be long term. If I’m Delap I’m not risking it though.  

 

Or an aging striker like Wilson that we already have. 
 

I do think if you have a Grade A striker. It’s the managers responsibility (and the players) to ensure they can play 85% of minutes he needs too. All the top players have always done that. Your best player is going to play a lot of minutes. ISAK’s physicality has improved this season, it needs to go another level again. You can’t burn the clutch out of a top talent like Isak.  
 

Central midfielders yeah you might have to push to their limits physically. Thats why you need top quality on the bench. 

We don’t have that in Gordon though. Just because he’s been rolled out there in desperate times, doesn’t make him an option because we all say how much we drop with him up front. 
 

Can argue we have Joelinton also as a striker option, but again we all know we wouldn’t want him playing up front.

[Sibierski]

I’d also argue that if you got a functioning team, you can have a group of CMs that are 7 out of 10s if it works as a unit. Liverpool under Klopp was just that. 

[Geordie_once_removed]

5 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Not sure he’s physical enough for a Howe midfield.

My view is a bit different. We still often struggle to have controlled possession against good to top teams. When we're at our best, like the cup final, we still play a version of the system that got us 4th. Ultra high pressing and lethal in transition. Howe has tried with mixed results to move away from this. 

 

A player like Gomez in a midfield 3 with Bruno and Tonali could help us has a less physical more technical option for a midfield 3 that would allow us to play that alternative style we'll need if we want to be a top team.

[andycap]

The problem with these talented British players is they cost a fortune to get them from there clubs. 

Look at lad southampton we can't be howking out that type of money yet. 

[Ikon]

Fair enough, they might sell him cheaply then. Time will tell I guess. Hopefully they do (IF we want him). Just that in todays market i still don’t see it being below 60. 

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Ikon

[TRon]

6 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Delap can play on the wings too. As much chance it’s with Barnes moving on IMO. 
 

Can rotate with Isak up top, can play with Isak up top, can fill in LW for resting Gordon if required. Many upsides to getting value, whilst we’ve probably got ours out of Barnes and he’s only ever going to be 2nd fiddle at LW. Opportunity to cash in this summer.

 

 

I'd love Delap to add to our strike force obviously. Just saying I'd be worried if we were signing him it's because we were preparing for Isak's departure. Just cannot see Delap coming here to play second fiddle. If he can play wide great, would he be happy to do it though?

 

 

[toon25]

2 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Left field but I'd take a punt at a few million on Viptonik at Swansea, he's basically Mitro lite but Slovenian rather than Serbian.

 

He's not going to be a 20 goal a season player but he's got potential to be a decent mobile target man

 

He's absolutely shit according to some Swansea supporting relatives. 215-odd minutes per goal this season.

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, Sibierski said:

We don’t have that in Gordon though. Just because he’s been rolled out there in desperate times, doesn’t make him an option because we all say how much we drop with him up front. 
 

Can argue we have Joelinton also as a striker option, but again we all know we wouldn’t want him playing up front.

He's no worse than Rashford upfront.

 

2 hours ago, Geordie_once_removed said:

My view is a bit different. We still often struggle to have controlled possession against good to top teams. When we're at our best, like the cup final, we still play a version of the system that got us 4th. Ultra high pressing and lethal in transition. Howe has tried with mixed results to move away from this. 

 

A player like Gomez in a midfield 3 with Bruno and Tonali could help us has a less physical more technical option for a midfield 3 that would allow us to play that alternative style we'll need if we want to be a top team.

Think we need physical monsters that can play like Tonali. When Joelinton doesn't play we suddenly can't compete physically. Joelinton will pick up bans and injuries it seems. We miss his height too.

 

When Pep replaced Fernandinho - he knew he needed a tall physical player. Howe's team needs a number of physical CMs. Miley's not. Bruno's not. We can't add a third imo.

[Sibierski]

49 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He's no worse than Rashford upfront.

 

 

He’s loads worse  

[Kanj]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

He's no worse than Rashford upfront.

 

Think we need physical monsters that can play like Tonali. When Joelinton doesn't play we suddenly can't compete physically. Joelinton will pick up bans and injuries it seems. We miss his height too.

 

When Pep replaced Fernandinho - he knew he needed a tall physical player. Howe's team needs a number of physical CMs. Miley's not. Bruno's not. We can't add a third imo.

 

If you're going to replace Joelinton one day, you'd probably do that with Connor Gallagher - press resistant, physical machine. Then when you eventually need to replace Bruno, you go for a more finesse creator profile? 

[Kanj]

3 hours ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Because ultimately their model requires selling. They were nearly burnt with Toney and asking for too much, ultimately risking losing him for nowt. They got away with it as Saudi bailed them out with a solid fee once his market had collapsed.

 

If they don't sell this summer he will be down to 1 year next year (with club option triggered). I think 40-50 will do it given this is a player they bought for 6.5 million euros.

 

Yep, spot on. They will need to move Mbuemo on to keep the wheels turning there. Wissa the following summer?

[black_n_white]

7 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

If you're going to replace Joelinton one day, you'd probably do that with Connor Gallagher - press resistant, physical machine. Then when you eventually need to replace Bruno, you go for a more finesse creator profile? 

The thought of Bruno leaving ever upsets me

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

The thought of Bruno leaving ever upsets me

Can’t even go there!

[The College Dropout]

11 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

If you're going to replace Joelinton one day, you'd probably do that with Connor Gallagher - press resistant, physical machine. Then when you eventually need to replace Bruno, you go for a more finesse creator profile? 

Is Connor Gallagher press resistant?

 

I think Miley's profile is closer to Bruno's than Joelinton. That's who I think he can step in for. But Bruno is a minutes and fitness monster (touch wood!) so Miley will only get those minutes in full rotation or when we are several goals up. Joelinton & Tonali seem to need resting more, Joelinton misses games through suspensions too - I wouldn't want a Miley type to step in for him. Or Angel Gomes.

[Kanj]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Is Connor Gallagher press resistant?

 

I think Miley's profile is closer to Bruno's than Joelinton. That's who I think he can step in for. But Bruno is a minutes and fitness monster (touch wood!) so Miley will only get those minutes in full rotation or when we are several goals up. Joelinton & Tonali seem to need resting more, Joelinton misses games through suspensions too - I wouldn't want a Miley type to step in for him. Or Angel Gomes.

 

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