NUFC Transfer Rumours

[tarie4]

11 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

You may look at the squad list and see, and bare in mind this was 2 years ago Lewis Hall then wasn't Lewis hall now. Same for Tino etc. 

 

We had such talents like Ritchie and Dummett knocking around. 

Your clutching at straws here mate. Tino and Hall weren't starters and weren't bought as starters but back up. 

 Dummett and Ritchie were 3rd choices or 4th.

 

That was a strong and decent squad. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

46 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Would be an act of self sabotage, We've literally gone into a champions league campaign short before, we know how it ends

We would’ve got through if we hadn’t been robbed or the group wasn’t impossible TBF. 

[TRon]

11 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

It's incredibly boring isn't it, what date do people think we'll sign our first player?

 

I'm guessing the 12th.

 

 

It's going to be frustrating but I think we might end up making a raft of late signings. Just looking at the rumours on players we are after, like Elanga, Pedro, Mbuemo, Madueke, Kudus and so on, just about every cartel club has also been linked with them. 

 

It actually makes sense not to make any moves until those clubs have come out of the woodwork and made their bids. If we are successful in competing for players, great. If not, those clubs will be out of our way by the end of the window and we can go after emerging players who won't be attracted to sitting on the bench at cartel clubs. 

[r0cafella]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We would’ve got through if we hadn’t been robbed or the group wasn’t impossible TBF. 

Im not even referring to the performance on the champions league. I'm referring to the lack of depth overall. 

[mighty__mag]

There's only really Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea that have gone early and tied up deals.

 

The rest are waiting patiently, it does have you wonder if Howe says these things and is bluffing, now he knows who's gone where and who's spent what, we can now strike. 

 

 

[Roids]

48 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

This isn't true in anyway at all. How were we short ?

We literally had 2 players in each position. 

Injuries is what hurt us. Not being short.

We had  3 rbs 5 cbs 2 lbs 2 rws 2 lws 7 cms and 2 fws. Not to mention the keepers. How was that short?

 

 

 

This is revisionist.

 

We were extremely top heavy in quality and couldn't deal with injuries/lack of form, consequences of which reared its head in the leagie

[J7]

I know we don’t want to be lumbered with players we cannot shift, but we could sign some squad players too. We need 3 or 4 starters, but I kind of thought we’d doing a bit more work like what Brighton do (at a higher level), and have a scouting system to bring in promising players who won’t necessarily start. We seem to only go after first team ‘starters’ and kids. 
 

That said, we’re nearly 4 years in and we don’t really know what’s happening behind the scenes with the CEO leaving and no DoF. God forbid Howe leaves as the whole point in having an Ashworth/Mitchell type person above was that there would be some continuation without much upheaval. Hence why the manager shouldn’t be as involved in transfers.

[TRon]

1 minute ago, J7 said:

I know we don’t want to be lumbered with players we cannot shift, but we could sign some squad players too. We need 3 or 4 starters, but I kind of thought we’d doing a bit more work like what Brighton do (at a higher level), and have a scouting system to bring in promising players who won’t necessarily start. We seem to only go after first team ‘starters’ and kids. 
 

That said, we’re nearly 4 years in and we don’t really know what’s happening behind the scenes with the CEO leaving and no DoF. God forbid Howe leaves as the whole point in having an Ashworth/Mitchell type person above was that there would be some continuation without much upheaval. Hence why the manager shouldn’t be as involved in transfers.

 

 

I expect us to do this later in the window tbh. I'm sure Eddie would prefer to sign the likes of Mbuemo and Pedro, but once those possibilities have gone, then we can start bolstering the squad with the best of the rest. 

[tarie4]

12 minutes ago, Roids said:

This is revisionist.

 

We were extremely top heavy in quality and couldn't deal with injuries/lack of form, consequences of which reared its head in the leagie

I beg to differ. Going into that Season we had a strong squad. And we were happy with our summer business. Our CM options where tonali, Bruno, Big Joe, Anderson, miley, longstaff and Willock. 

Willock and Longstaff were integral to us finishing 4th and were quality (back then) but were on the bench v Villa.

 

We then had Pope, Krafth, burn, botman, Targett, Murphy, tonali, big Joe, willock, anderson, Barnes, Wilson out at the same time. That a whole 11. Can a recruitment team legislate for that?

 

The team available was.

Dubs tripps Lascelles schar tino miggy longstaff Bruno miley Gordon and Isak.

 

 

Are those not two strong 11s? Without dummett, Ritchie, Hall etc.

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2025 by tarie4

[Roids]

5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

I beg to differ. Going into that Season we had a strong squad. And we were happy with our summer business. Our CM options where tonali, Bruno, Big Joe, Anderson, miley, longstaff and Willock. 

Willock and Longstaff were integral to us finishing 4th and were quality (back then) but we're on the bench v Villa.

 

We then had Pope, Tripps, burn, botman, Targett, Murphy, tonali, big Joe, willock, anderson, Barnes, Wilson out at the same time. That a whole 11. Can a recruitment team legislate for that?

 

You're speaking of quantity, I'm referring to quality.

Tonali was suspended so we had a core of Bruno, Willock, Joe & Longstaff playing twice a week for over half a season, they guys were visibly knackered and couldn't sustain their best levels

You may not remember but we led the league for the season in time lost to injury, because as mentioned, the squad was strong enough to play twice a week (not to mention International games)

 

 

Edited July 2, 2025 by Roids

[tarie4]

4 minutes ago, Roids said:

You're speaking of quantity, I'm referring to quality.

Tonali was suspended so we had a core of Bruno, Willock, Joe & Longstaff playing twice a week for over half a season, they guys were visibly knackered and couldn't sustain their best levels

You may not remember but we led the league for the season in time lost to injury, because as mentioned, the squad was strong enough to play twice a week (not to mention International games)

 

 

 

I should ask then. How could we have improved that in the transfer window? I gave an example. That willock and Longstaff were starters. Buying tonali and Barnes moved them to the bench.

Got tino as back up and hall, Now how were we not improved? And not well equipped for those CL games and league?

[The Prophet]

31 minutes ago, Roids said:

This is revisionist.

 

We were extremely top heavy in quality and couldn't deal with injuries/lack of form, consequences of which reared its head in the leagie

 

I disagree, the aim was clearly to have two players for every position. We (right or wrongly) prioritised the squad over the needs of the first team.

 

If I remember rightly it was quickly kiboshed with Tonali's ban, Anderson's (and possibly Burn's) back injury and Barnes breaking his foot. The injuries snowballed from there.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2025 by The Prophet

[nufcjb]

Today is the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2nd day of July.

[Optimistic Nut]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Surely having no cover for Isak is literally asking for it?

 

I count Wilson out as needing a striker (or least a winger who can play striker) in. 

[Newcastle Fan]

Jonathan David heading to Juve, i really thought he'd be perfect for us as he can play in multiple roles and has the quality required.

[gbandit]

9 minutes ago, nufcjb said:

Today is the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2nd day of July.

 

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I count Wilson out as needing a striker (or least a winger who can play striker) in. 

You want to rely on Wilson for something other than being injured?

[Optimistic Nut]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

You want to rely on Wilson for something other than being injured?

 

If we're keeping him he'll be backup to Isak. If he goes we'll need someone else..I want him gone but you can only have so many players. Strengthening the first XI has to always be the big priority as they're the ones likely to play 40 games a season. Then it's squad player out, squad player in. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

If we're keeping him he'll be backup to Isak. If he goes we'll need someone else..I want him gone but you can only have so many players. Strengthening the first XI has to always be the big priority as they're the ones likely to play 40 games a season. Then it's squad player out, squad player in. 

That's the issue with Wilson though isn't it? Regardless of weather he's finished or not he simple can't perform the role of a back up or squad player because he always misses chunks of the season. 

 

He simply can't perform this role and he shouldn't even be considered. 

[Roids]

30 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

I should ask then. How could we have improved that in the transfer window? I gave an example. That willock and Longstaff were starters. Buying tonali and Barnes moved them to the bench.

Got tino as back up and hall, Now how were we not improved? And not well equipped for those CL games and league?

We couldn't, I'm not suggesting there was much we could do prior, especially with the PSR handcuffs. 

But the squad as constructed bar a miracle wasn't going to survive 50+ games especially with the intensity we played with.

We'll have the same issue next season if we don't make the right signings this summer

 

 

Edited July 2, 2025 by Roids

[Benwell Lad]

Overall our recruitment has been superb since Howe and PIF arrived.

Bruno, Trippier, Botman, Tonali, BDB, Tino, Hall, Izak, Barnes, Osula all excellent acquisitions. Not only ability but great character and attitude too.

That level of success in the market is down to a whole team of people. We're actually quite good at this transfer market stuff nowadays.

Maybe just a bit of patience needed right now.

[LFEE]

2 hours ago, Rich said:

There’s no way three signings is enough, mind.

There’s always January if still in 4 competitions. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, LFEE said:

There’s always January if still in 4 competitions. 

#wait. 

[janpawel]

2 minutes ago, Roids said:

We couldn't, I'm not suggesting there was much we could do prior, especially with the PSR handcuffs. 

But the squad as constructed bar a miracle wasn't going to survive 50+ games especially with the intensity we played with.

We'll have the same issue next season if we don't make the right signings this summer

 

 

 

 

Agreed, our CM's put so much graft in, we really do need depth there and Howe doesn't trust anyone other than the main 3

 

For CM I'd like us to sell 1 of Willock/Longstaff, get a quality LCM (Ederson, Lamine Camara etc) 

 

Bruno, Tonali, Joelinton, new CM, Miley, Willock - Happy with that 

[Roids]

25 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I disagree, the aim was clearly to have two players for every position. We (right or wrongly) prioritised the squad over the needs of the first team.

 

If I remember rightly it was quickly kiboshed with Tonali's ban, Anderson's (and possibly Burn's) back injury and Barnes breaking his foot. The injuries snowballed from there.

 

 

 

We're agreeing in a roundabout way, if the backups aren't fit for purpose, they're worthless.

Ofc I don't expect to have had 2 of similar ilk for every position. For relative comparison, Gordon went down this season , Barnes came in performed better.

That season, no single position could be said to have adequate cover besides maybe Isak -> Wilson