NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Haz]

3 hours ago, MagPar said:

Surely people aren't taking this 90 million striker talk seriously?

 

Its poppycock and balderdashery.

 

Could be. But nobody knows exact costs or whatever. So lets dream while its still possible.

[TheBrownBottle]

Gallagher would start ahead of Joelinton if he was signed - he wouldn’t be coming in as a back up

 

Can’t see it though

[Andy84]

Gallagher link is completely made up 

[Hanshithispantz]

The disrespect Joelinton gets is incredible like 

 

 

[Rod]

26 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

The disrespect Joelinton gets is incredible like 

 

 

From who?

[astraguy]

32 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Gallagher would start ahead of Joelinton if he was signed - he wouldn’t be coming in as a back up

 

Can’t see it though

No he  wouldn't 

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, Rod said:

From who?

People talk about him being dropped all the time. He'll be starting the majority of games unless we sign another Tonali/Bruno level midfielder. Gallagher isn't keeping him out of the side (the 4 would rotate with Bruno playing most minutes).

 

 

Edited July 13, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[midds]

I think the word 'dropped' needs to just leave the conversations for the next 12 months tbh

 

We know we have a strongest XI and it'll be used loads but there will also be loads of games where players legitimately need to have a week or 2 off to rest up. There's 38 League games, probably 10-12 CL games and maybe another 6+ games in domestic Cups next season, that's 55 games(ish) and none of the squad are going to play each week, we need to dip into the squad and have players coming in equal to the quality of the players being rested and Joelinton/Gallagher is a classic example. If he was signed then I could still see Tonali, Bruno, Joelinton and Gallagher all getting 40+ games each in various different combinations. Miley and Willock would also get another 25+ each too. 55 games playing 3 CMs means finding 165 starts (plus subs) for the midfield to share out, as Howe sees fit, across the squad. There is no 'dropped' this season

[MagSA]

There are enough games to keep all 4 happy (assuming Gallacher comes) and bring Miley along.

 

Not like Bruno, Tonali and Big Joe are going to play every game for the entire season. We need to rotate and adapt with different tactics for different opposition. As the squad evolves and more quality players are added there must be an acceptance that its no longer about who is first choice and who isn't. It's about what's best to get a result on the day.

 

Lots of quality players left out of first 11 at other teams and then they come in later to do a job and others drop out.

 

It's EH job to keep them all onboard and engaged

 

[MagSA]

8 minutes ago, midds said:

I think the word 'dropped' needs to just leave the conversations for the next 12 months tbh

 

We know we have a strongest XI and it'll be used loads but there will also be loads of games where players legitimately need to have a week or 2 off to rest up. There's 38 League games, probably 10-12 CL games and maybe another 6+ games in domestic Cups next season, that's 55 games(ish) and none of the squad are going to play each week, we need to dip into the squad and have players coming in equal to the quality of the players being rested and Joelinton/Gallagher is a classic example. If he was signed then I could still see Tonali, Bruno, Joelinton and Gallagher all getting 40+ games each in various different combinations. Miley and Willock would also get another 25+ each too. 55 games playing 3 CMs means finding 165 starts (plus subs) for the midfield to share out, as Howe sees fit, across the squad. There is no 'dropped' this season

Sorry only saw your post after posting mine, and it looks like we on the same page

[Hanshithispantz]

1 minute ago, midds said:

I think the word 'dropped' needs to just leave the conversations for the next 12 months tbh

 

We know we have a strongest XI and it'll be used loads but there will also be loads of games where players legitimately need to have a week or 2 off to rest up. There's 38 League games, probably 10-12 CL games and maybe another 6+ games in domestic Cups next season, that's 55 games(ish) and none of the squad are going to play each week, we need to dip into the squad and have players coming in equal to the quality of the players being rested and Joelinton/Gallagher is a classic example. If he was signed then I could still see Tonali, Bruno, Joelinton and Gallagher all getting 40+ games each in various different combinations. Miley and Willock would also get another 25+ each too. 55 games playing 3 CMs means finding 165 starts (plus subs) for the midfield to share out, as Howe sees fit, across the squad. There is no 'dropped' this season

Would you say Darwin Nunez was 'dropped' or 'rotated'?

 

I get your point, but some people don't want Joelinton in the side outside of being backup to another CM and in some tactical matchups because of his iffy passing.

[midds]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Would you say Darwin Nunez was 'dropped' or 'rotated'?

 

I get your point, but some people don't want Joelinton in the side outside of being backup to another CM and in some tactical matchups because of his iffy passing.

Rotated. He comes in and drifts out of the team in order to rest others. I'm not sure he does a great job when he comes in but he's definitely been used on and off at points during the season. He's definitely not part of Liverpool's strongest XI but I think that just proves my point tbh?

[Toonpack]

Dropped is a hangover from the days of one sub on the bench it's a worthless descriptor for anything other than if a player was "dropped" from the team and not included in the next matchday squad these days. It's a squad game with usually 14-15 players seeing the pitch every game.

 

 

Edited July 13, 2025 by Toonpack

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, midds said:

Rotated. He comes in and drifts out of the team in order to rest others. I'm not sure he does a great job when he comes in but he's definitely been used on and off at points during the season. He's definitely not part of Liverpool's strongest XI but I think that just proves my point tbh?

He was signed as their number 9 and started 8 league games last season. I would say that he was dropped personally but it's probably a semantics issue.

 

I agree with you main point tbh, just think a player like Joelinton wouldn't be happy if he wasn't starting most games when fit.

[Holloway]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Gallagher would start ahead of Joelinton if he was signed - he wouldn’t be coming in as a back up

 

Can’t see it though

Maybe in your losing team 😉

[Hanshithispantz]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Dropped is a hangover from the days of one sub on the bench it's a worthless descriptor for anything other than if a player was "dropped" from the team and not included in the next matchday squad these days. It's a squad game with usually 14-15 players seeing the pitch every game.

 

 

 

Nah players definitely still get dropped like 

 

A worthless descriptor? How? Longstaff was clearly dropped for Tonali last season.

[midds]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

He was signed as their number 9 and started 8 league games last season. I would say that he was dropped personally but it's probably a semantics issue.

 

I agree with you main point tbh, just think a player like Joelinton wouldn't be happy if he wasn't starting most games when fit.

I'd agree he's failed (miserably) to live up to expectations and has down been downgraded to squad player rather than first choice XI but he's still come in and out of the squad. He's been used sparingly but he's still coming in and out of the side so he's a rotation player. A very expensive one but that's down to his poor performances (unless the opposition is NUFC). His role has changed from Plan A but he still has a role within the squad imo  

[cubaricho]

Gallagher being able to not only press and break up play like Joelinton but you know, actually pass as well, will get him in the general starting XI sooner rather than later (if he does sign). 

[Andy84]

2 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Gallagher being able to not only press and break up play like Joelinton but you know, actually pass as well, will get him in the general starting XI sooner rather than later (if he does sign). 

He’s not 

[Hanshithispantz]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

Gallagher being able to not only press and break up play like Joelinton but you know, actually pass as well, will get him in the general starting XI sooner rather than later (if he does sign). 

He's not that great of a passer though is he? He looked lethal at times for palace around the box but never looked particularly dangerous breaking teams apart for Chelsea?

 

[Kid Icarus]

I think you're both right here tbh. Not playing very often means rotated rather than being dropped now, but being dropped is still a thing.

 

You look at us now and think eventually the plan is that we don't have a starting XI and outside of a few mainstay players we basically just play who best fits the match, or rest the mainstay players if we can, exactly like Man City have been doing it for years.

[Holloway]

9 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Gallagher being able to not only press and break up play like Joelinton but you know, actually pass as well, will get him in the general starting XI sooner rather than later (if he does sign). 

When did this happen like ?

[midds]

I think as players come into a squad then the first choice XI does change and some players will inevitable drop out of it. Elanga for Murphy for example, I'd argue Murphy drops out of the first XI now Elanga is here but that doesn't mean Murphy has been 'dropped' as such and he'll still get 30+ appearances this season I reckon. It's just a negative word and way to look at it imo, it's about the team and the squad and it'll be achieved (or not) as a unit rather than a group of 13 players

[khay]

Age dropped is when a player had a stinker of a match or for off field matters and is dropped for the next or multiple games from the starting line up. Tonali replaced Longstaff cause he is a much better player. Murphy is not going to be dropped for Elanga but he is going to loose his starting place to him this the season. 

[Stifler]

18 hours ago, Slim said:

Rather win club world cup than the champions League tbh

We’d likely have to win the Champions League to qualify for the Club World Cup, at the very least go very deep into the competition for multiple years.