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3 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Well, it’s the only way to go, no? Try for your ambitious targets first and if they fail to materialize pivot to more gettable deals.

 

Just have to hope the time taken doesn’t leave us short when the window closes.

 

Yeah, absolutely.

 

All they have to do now is show that they are ready and able to pivot.

 

If so, we'll be good to go.

 

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18 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

I’m finding Mitchell to be a very convenient scapegoat, mind. It’s his fault we’re not getting Trafford and that Isak isn’t tied down but also it’s the fault of him leaving why this summer has been difficult due to the lack of sporting director.

 

If he was such an unmitigated disaster, what was the selection process and why is no one criticising Eales for his role in that and also the bit of a joke that has been this summer thus far? Who still hasn’t found his own replacement (assuming it’s part of his responsibility that is).

Honestly, I think illness is doing great things for Eales' reputation at the moment. Even if people wanted to complain or brief about him, who would want to kick him in the current circumstances? So it's understandable that not much is said, even if that's wrong.

 

But it's absolutely true to say this isn't all Mitchell's fault, that ought to be obvious.

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Any particular reason why we haven’t thrown one of our tentative low ball bids in for Sesko? Everybody seems to have massively cooled on him, unless they’re waiting until nearer the end of the window to see who blinks first. 

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14 minutes ago, et tu brute said:


Striker is absolutely crucial

 

True, maybe we wont get one of the other positions in. At this rate, filling all 5 positions we need to strengthen doesnt look likely. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Adam P said:

That Telegraph article makes it look like we bid for Mbeumo, Cunha and Pedro. Is that true? I thought that unreliable sources had said we were interested in the former two but did we at least propose a price? 

 

My take so far is that we have failed to get Pedro. I dont think we were serious about Ekitike, i think it was designed to flush out Liverpool by forcing their hand. Trafford could still come and Elanga signed. If we keep Isak, get Trafford and 2 others then its not a disaster. Sela cup to seal the Gallagher deal and one of them Italian defenders late in the window. Would take that right now. 

 

I don't know if we ever actually bid for those players but I'm sure some discussions were had and if we'd been able to get them on terms we were happy with we would have gone for it, like we did with Elanga. Ekitike was probably the same and Trafford may go that way too.

 

I don't have an issue with all the names in the above post being our top targets and I don't have an issue with missing out on those players, most of which have gone to rivals with considerably more prestige and money. What matters now is our plan B and how quickly and successfully we pivot to that. If we are flexible, able to move onto our "B List" and bring in the three or four we need then the window will most likely end up being a success. However if we're still sticking with the "small pool of players" and that means we're short this coming season then we'll pay the price for it.

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5 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Any particular reason why we haven’t thrown one of our tentative low ball bids in for Sesko? Everybody seems to have massively cooled on him, unless they’re waiting until nearer the end of the window to see who blinks first. 

Because he would cost a fortune and certainly is only a number 9 and nothing else? 

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7 minutes ago, 80 said:

Honestly, I think illness is doing great things for Eales' reputation at the moment. Even if people wanted to complain or brief about him, who would want to kick him in the current circumstances? So it's understandable that not much is said, even if that's wrong.

 

But it's absolutely true to say this isn't all Mitchell's fault, that ought to be obvious.

Eales has been a disappointment. The man who builds club has left what legacy exactly?

 

In his defence it might be because our owners move at a glacial pace? Other than sleeping with the league club I'm not sure what he will be remembered for. 

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2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Eales has been a disappointment. The man who builds club has left what legacy exactly?

 

In his defence it might be because our owners move at a glacial pace? Other than sleeping with the league club I'm not sure what he will be remembered for. 

It might be his cancer diagnosis too. No idea what stage its at but thats not an easy one to work with at the top of a profession. Chronic blood cancers cause extreme fatigue.

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Just now, BennyBlanco said:


 

We were willing to shell out for Ekitike. . . .

70 million iirc, and he can play as 10 and certainly is totally different to what Sesko is.

 

I think we see Ekitike as a versatile option up top. Sesko is number 9.

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Just now, Adam P said:

It might be his cancer diagnosis too. No idea what stage its at but thats not an easy one to work with at the top of a profession. Chronic blood cancers cause extreme fatigue.

Absolutely it could be, as I've said previously its borderline negligence that he's still post as we dilly dally getting a replacement. 

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Aye it doesn’t really tell us anything that we haven’t already mused on here. 
 

Bit shit to have it all semi-confirmed though. It’s a bit of a mess. Not totally beyond repair like but we’ll deffo go into the season short of where we need to be.

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2 minutes ago, Ilovetoon8788 said:

I think there's too much uncertainty in the backroom staff and most of them are involved in recruitment. This Is why the window has been quite bad.. 

 

I hope they sort it out soon and do a proper one next summer. 

The thing is we're blowing a massive opportunity this season by making a mess of our transfers. Absolutely no guarantee we'll make CL next year so it'll feel like a couple of steps back. It just feels like our target list was pretty small and back up options weren't there. Now we're flailing around trying to boost our numbers and every club knows this. 

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Need to get it together asap off the pitch in more than one way. Potential failings and negative noise here and there and in public will have an effect on players. If you think otherwise I don’t know what to say. Players just like your normal average workers will sense and know when things aren’t quite right behind the scenes. 

 

 

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There could be a player in Jackson tbf. He hadn't played much football before he was asked to lead the line for Chelsea as a 22/23-year-old. Certainly wouldn't be my first choice, and not any choice at the prices quoted, but I think you can afford most players at that club some grace.

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I like Jackson as a player because he has the skill set you like in a striker. Just he is the type of signing we should be making before he moves to a prem side, and I’d rather not help Chelsea for a player that you can get again elsewhere for a lot less.

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17 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Eales has been a disappointment. The man who builds club has left what legacy exactly?

 

In his defence it might be because our owners move at a glacial pace? Other than sleeping with the league club I'm not sure what he will be remembered for. 

His biggest impact seems to have been assassinating Amanda and Mehrdad.

 

I thought it was striking that for all the many remarks, likes and retweets Mehrdad still has for the club and fans on Twitter, there was silence when Eales' diagnosis was revealed last year.

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