Ben Posted July 21, 2025 Share Posted July 21, 2025 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Definately not Saka then ? Nar, time to wake up and smell the coffee, we are a top 10 to 6 team, unless something drastic happens we will never catch the Sky6, maybe Europe qualification and the league cup is the best we can hope for under PSR restrictions and the lack of drive from the owners to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted July 21, 2025 Share Posted July 21, 2025 Forgot about the gameshow appearance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 21, 2025 Share Posted July 21, 2025 6 minutes ago, Ben said: Nar, time to wake up and smell the coffee, we are a top 10 to 6 team, unless something drastic happens we will never catch the Sky6, maybe Europe qualification and the league cup is the best we can hope for under PSR restrictions and the lack of drive from the owners to improve. your expectations were crazy high he’s Arsenals best player, he’s probably on 3 times the wage of our highest paid player and his transfer fee would be our whole budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 21, 2025 Share Posted July 21, 2025 27 minutes ago, gdm said: your expectations were crazy high he’s Arsenals best player, he’s probably on 3 times the wage of our highest paid player and his transfer fee would be our whole budget. Bit of a pisser when you think the sky is the limit, then we have a summer of rejections and you realise it's obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 21, 2025 Share Posted July 21, 2025 4 minutes ago, Ben said: Bit of a pisser when you think the sky is the limit, then we have a summer of rejections and you realise it's obviously not. Well yeah, don’t think anyone expected this shambles of a summer. I’m still hopeful tho. However I think what we end up with won’t be anywhere near as good as what we could have had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 3 hours ago, Ben said: Nar, time to wake up and smell the coffee, we are a top 10 to 6 team, unless something drastic happens we will never catch the Sky6, maybe Europe qualification and the league cup is the best we can hope for under PSR restrictions and the lack of drive from the owners to improve. Complete change in attitude, application and method is needed, completely rudderless from the top. Hopefully something is happening, but realistically, I'm hoping sometime in the next 2 years these lads either decide to do this properly or sell, hopefully Stavely can get back in, seems like she was the only thing keeping things glued together. What a waste, the team against all odds goes from relegation certainties to twice qualifying for CL, and in that time the execs and recruitment have been among the worst in the league. That 25 man list is a joke, and we've known this for many seasons. 60 mil for Guehi last year with the massive holes in the squad. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 6 hours ago, Shearergol said: It’s a tricky one. I hate the idea that the richest owners win the league every year. The issue we have is the rules restrict everyone apart from the clubs who previously benefitted from the rules not being there. there has to be some form of reset, but at the same times it does need regulating. American sports caps the spending of highest-revenue teams and uses the excess revenue to subsidize everyone else. English Football caps the spending of everyone else and tells them to go fuck themselves. I know which system sounds fairer to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 4 hours ago, Ben said: Bit of a pisser when you think the sky is the limit, then we have a summer of rejections and you realise it's obviously not. Did someone tell you this? ‘Cause I have some beachfront property to sell you if so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 6 hours ago, Ben said: Bit of a pisser when you think the sky is the limit, then we have a summer of rejections and you realise it's obviously not. I’m very confused what made you think the sky was the limit as if there are no rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 3 hours ago, wong989 said: Complete change in attitude, application and method is needed, completely rudderless from the top. Hopefully something is happening, but realistically, I'm hoping sometime in the next 2 years these lads either decide to do this properly or sell, hopefully Stavely can get back in, seems like she was the only thing keeping things glued together. What a waste, the team against all odds goes from relegation certainties to twice qualifying for CL, and in that time the execs and recruitment have been among the worst in the league. That 25 man list is a joke, and we've known this for many seasons. 60 mil for Guehi last year with the massive holes in the squad. Ridiculous. So we win our first trophy since 1969 and qualify for the champion’s league, we have the most coveted striker currently in the world and we’ve performed better in the last three seasons than we have in the previous 15 or so but because we’ve only signed one player by the end of July it’s an irredeemable disaster? shit the absolute bed man. Pull yourself together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 23 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I’m very confused what made you think the sky was the limit as if there are no rules. Did you honestly think the summer would pan out like it has ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 3 minutes ago, Ben said: Did you honestly think the summer would pan out like it has ? No. I thought it would be better for sure. Still, we know about all the restrictions and our glass ceiling is a lot lower than the sky. Also, Saka……. really?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 We've aimed high and been shot down at each occasion, surely we can't be criticising them for that. The proof in the pudding is how we react now and attempt to hoover up the targets in the next tier down from the elite Don't think anyone would be happy if we stumble to the end of the transfer window with just Elanga and maybe an unknown or two after the briefings from EH at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 Ready to move for this lad according to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 55 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: No. I thought it would be better for sure. Still, we know about all the restrictions and our glass ceiling is a lot lower than the sky. Also, Saka……. really?! Obviously that was tongue in cheek, I was stressing that I was really looking forward to the window opening with all the noises coming out of the club. The amount of " I told you so's" since posting that are at a Luke Edwards level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 Just now, Ben said: Obviously that was tongue in cheek, I was stressing that I was really looking forward to the window opening with all the noises coming out of the club. The amount of " I told you so's" since posting that are at a Luke Edwards level. Well TBF. I think you can agree the window has been underwhelming so far. Whilst also pointing out it is naive in the extreme to be thinking the sky is the limit or tongue in cheek comments about the likes of Saka and expecting big names like that. We could and should have done more and shown a bit more urgency. I think we can all agree there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 (edited) The sky's the limit does not mean you reach the sky straight away. We have no insurmountable limits that prevent us from getting bigger and bigger. But we do have major obstacles in our way that slow that progression. I thought everyone knew that. We're going to have to stay up near the top of the league and compete for trophies to allow us to build sponsorships. We'll need to build a new stadium or expand our own, and over time increase our revenue to drag ourselfs towards the top. I honestly thought everyone realised that's how it would have to be given PSR rules. Edited July 22, 2025 by Teasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 Deal sheet. Spoiler Would Yoane Wissa be a good alternative to Ekitike? Newcastle are reassessing their options across multiple positions, given they have missed out on their top targets. One of those is in attack, where a younger, versatile profile such as Joao Pedro or Ekitike was being sought. Now, Newcastle are considering alternatives, with Brentford’s Yoane Wissa among them, even though he was not under active discussion as a target 10 days ago. Wissa scored 19 Premier League goals last season and has the versatility to play across the frontline. He is experienced in the top flight and would be able to deliver immediately, so, in that regard, moving for the DR Congo international makes a lot of sense. However, Wissa turns 29 in September, so he is significantly older than the preferred age profile for recruits of 24 and under, while he may miss a significant portion of the season in early 2026 due to the Africa Cup of Nations. Brentford’s asking price could also be a major hurdle. Moves for other Premier League and European strikers are also being explored — Dominic Calvert-Lewin, a free agent after leaving Everton, is one, though Aston Villa’s Ollie Watkins is not presently under consideration — but Newcastle are keen not to rush into making a signing for the sake of it. Although they are confident they will make additions this summer, despite receiving multiple knockbacks so far, there is a recognition that Newcastle cannot afford to bring just any player in. Howe believes they must remain calm and ensure they spend money on the “right players” who will improve the squad. No bid has yet been made for Wissa, though Newcastle may formalise their interest soon if they determine he is their next-best option. What positions/players are they still looking at? Goalkeeper, centre-back, and a forward to replace Callum Wilson are the priority positions, while a midfielder to replace Longstaff would also ideally be recruited. Newcastle have pursued James Trafford for more than a year but have struggled to make substantive progress during negotiations with Burnley this summer, given their divergent respective valuations of the goalkeeper. Manchester City, his former club, have Trafford on a list of possible goalkeeper options. Newcastle risk losing out on another key target. Should Newcastle fail to sign Trafford, there is no guarantee they will move for another goalkeeper, despite scouting Lille’s Lucas Chevalier, among others. Centre-backs based in the Premier League and across Europe have been discussed during recruitment meetings. Newcastle remain interested in Marc Guehi, the Crystal Palace and England defender who is in the final year of his contract, having failed in a month-long pursuit last August. Atalanta’s Giorgio Scalvini and Marseille’s Leonardo Balerdi have also featured during transfer discussions. While their long-term need for a new right-sided centre-back is acute, Newcastle have struggled to find an available option of suitable quality so far. Chelsea’s Axel Disasi is not under consideration, despite reports to the contrary, while Juventus’ Nicolo Savona is not an active option, either. Guehi is admired by those at St James’ Park (Julian Finney/Getty Images) Which players could be leaving? Isak will not be departing, Newcastle insist — though it is not just their star striker who they have no need or appetite to sell. The consistent and firm message has been that Newcastle will rebuff interest in Sandro Tonali, Bruno Guimaraes, Anthony Gordon and Tino Livramento, who is repeatedly linked with Manchester City. However, Odysseas Vlachodimos is available, most likely for a loan given the PSR ramifications of selling the Greece international who Newcastle paid £20m for, and Real Betis are among the clubs interested in the 31-year-old. Newcastle would likely need to cover a significant portion of Vlachodimos’ wages, should he be loaned out. Vlachodimos was not included in the Newcastle squad for Saturday’s defeat at Celtic. Martin Dubravka had been expected to leave and may still do so, though the Trafford situation and lack of progress in agreeing a deal with Burnley mean that it is not certain another goalkeeper will be signed. In that eventuality, Dubravka is likely to stay. Matt Targett is available, despite starting at Celtic, and so is Isaac Hayden, whose current deal expires next summer. Joe Willock has two years left on his contract and has been linked with moves elsewhere, though Howe would ideally like to keep the former Arsenal midfielder, especially foll owing Longstaff’s exit. Chris Waugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 Pretty depressing ngl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Deal sheet. Reveal hidden contents Would Yoane Wissa be a good alternative to Ekitike? Newcastle are reassessing their options across multiple positions, given they have missed out on their top targets. One of those is in attack, where a younger, versatile profile such as Joao Pedro or Ekitike was being sought. Now, Newcastle are considering alternatives, with Brentford’s Yoane Wissa among them, even though he was not under active discussion as a target 10 days ago. Wissa scored 19 Premier League goals last season and has the versatility to play across the frontline. He is experienced in the top flight and would be able to deliver immediately, so, in that regard, moving for the DR Congo international makes a lot of sense. However, Wissa turns 29 in September, so he is significantly older than the preferred age profile for recruits of 24 and under, while he may miss a significant portion of the season in early 2026 due to the Africa Cup of Nations. Brentford’s asking price could also be a major hurdle. Moves for other Premier League and European strikers are also being explored — Dominic Calvert-Lewin, a free agent after leaving Everton, is one, though Aston Villa’s Ollie Watkins is not presently under consideration — but Newcastle are keen not to rush into making a signing for the sake of it. Although they are confident they will make additions this summer, despite receiving multiple knockbacks so far, there is a recognition that Newcastle cannot afford to bring just any player in. Howe believes they must remain calm and ensure they spend money on the “right players” who will improve the squad. No bid has yet been made for Wissa, though Newcastle may formalise their interest soon if they determine he is their next-best option. What positions/players are they still looking at? Goalkeeper, centre-back, and a forward to replace Callum Wilson are the priority positions, while a midfielder to replace Longstaff would also ideally be recruited. Newcastle have pursued James Trafford for more than a year but have struggled to make substantive progress during negotiations with Burnley this summer, given their divergent respective valuations of the goalkeeper. Manchester City, his former club, have Trafford on a list of possible goalkeeper options. Newcastle risk losing out on another key target. Should Newcastle fail to sign Trafford, there is no guarantee they will move for another goalkeeper, despite scouting Lille’s Lucas Chevalier, among others. Centre-backs based in the Premier League and across Europe have been discussed during recruitment meetings. Newcastle remain interested in Marc Guehi, the Crystal Palace and England defender who is in the final year of his contract, having failed in a month-long pursuit last August. Atalanta’s Giorgio Scalvini and Marseille’s Leonardo Balerdi have also featured during transfer discussions. While their long-term need for a new right-sided centre-back is acute, Newcastle have struggled to find an available option of suitable quality so far. Chelsea’s Axel Disasi is not under consideration, despite reports to the contrary, while Juventus’ Nicolo Savona is not an active option, either. Guehi is admired by those at St James’ Park (Julian Finney/Getty Images) Which players could be leaving? Isak will not be departing, Newcastle insist — though it is not just their star striker who they have no need or appetite to sell. The consistent and firm message has been that Newcastle will rebuff interest in Sandro Tonali, Bruno Guimaraes, Anthony Gordon and Tino Livramento, who is repeatedly linked with Manchester City. However, Odysseas Vlachodimos is available, most likely for a loan given the PSR ramifications of selling the Greece international who Newcastle paid £20m for, and Real Betis are among the clubs interested in the 31-year-old. Newcastle would likely need to cover a significant portion of Vlachodimos’ wages, should he be loaned out. Vlachodimos was not included in the Newcastle squad for Saturday’s defeat at Celtic. Martin Dubravka had been expected to leave and may still do so, though the Trafford situation and lack of progress in agreeing a deal with Burnley mean that it is not certain another goalkeeper will be signed. In that eventuality, Dubravka is likely to stay. Matt Targett is available, despite starting at Celtic, and so is Isaac Hayden, whose current deal expires next summer. Joe Willock has two years left on his contract and has been linked with moves elsewhere, though Howe would ideally like to keep the former Arsenal midfielder, especially foll owing Longstaff’s exit. Chris Waugh Thanks Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BennyBlanco Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 So it’s gunna take some time to formalise interest in other striking targets that have yet to be determined? If that’s even remotely true, what the fuck are we even playing at here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 1 minute ago, JT24 said: RT Yeah didn't include this part as I don't view it as relevant, we all know what's taken place That being said, the congratulations us back slapping needs to stop. Well done what we got a player in from a club worst than us with no competition. Give them an award. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 "don't want to rush a signing" "Monitoring" "Admirers" "Can't afford to get it wrong" "PSR" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted July 22, 2025 Share Posted July 22, 2025 To call us a bit risk averse would be the understatement of the century. 🫠 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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