LFEE Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Murphy’s output from last season is almost impossible to better TBH, but you have to assume he wouldn’t repeat it again. And we have more games. Yep. We also need less drop off from the bench which I think is the point being made. How many games after 65mins we started to look weaker when subs were called upon… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 We’ll know if El Khannous is happening tomorrow surely? As his release clause ends on Friday? Wonder if the hold up on Ramsey is tied to BEK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 minute ago, gbandit said: We’ll know if El Khannous is happening tomorrow surely? As his release clause ends on Friday? Wonder if the hold up on Ramsey is tied to BEK Live a little, get them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: We’ll know if El Khannous is happening tomorrow surely? As his release clause ends on Friday? Wonder if the hold up on Ramsey is tied to BEK Would like both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 I think it’s been a decent window if Ramsey and Wissa come We have Targett to bin, the rest have gone Next summer we will need to replenish again Trippier-Schar-Lascelles-Krafth-Willock-Isak RB-CB-CB-LB-CM-CF This is where the Isak and CL money will help along with a competent CEO and DoF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 minute ago, Mikky said: I think it’s been a decent window if Ramsey and Wissa come We have Targett & Willock to bin, the rest have gone Next summer we will need to replenish again Trippier-Schar-Lascelles-Krafth-Willock-Isak RB-CB-CB-LB-CM-CF This is where the Isak and CL money will help along with a competent CEO and DoF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 All the journos I’ve seen asked today have all replied directly weirdly saying it’s only the one (Ramsey). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, LFEE said: So you do agree with it. The squad has been improved with the comparisons he made? Even the one with the typo error (Murphy not Ramsey). Nothing was said about XI. He highlighted the striker situation so you agree with that also. He never said any of that 🙂 I think that’s a bare minimum of what could be acceptable. Calling it good is what I disagreed with. It was labelled a transformative window before hand - fast movements. We’ve publicly missed out on major targets and made ourselves look like mugs. Then obviously the Isak saga. Calling it a good window is coping. That’s what I disagreed with. We might end up salvaging something and credit to the club for that but no one in their right mind so calling it good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 minute ago, St1pe said: I think that’s a bare minimum of what could be acceptable. Calling it good is what I disagreed with. It was labelled a transformative window before hand - fast movements. We’ve publicly missed out on major targets and made ourselves look like mugs. Then obviously the Isak saga. Calling it a good window is coping. That’s what I disagreed with. We might end up salvaging something and credit to the club for that but no one in their right mind so calling it good. If we end the window with Ramsey, Wissa and either Isak or an adequate alternative then I think it's a 7/10. Hard to give it any more than that without adding a top level player but I think addressing all areas of need with (at a bare minimum) solid, proven players isn't bad work at all. The Isak situation, as it stands I think we're handling it as well as we possibly can but we'll have to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 12 minutes ago, LFEE said: All the journos I’ve seen asked today have all replied directly weirdly saying it’s only the one (Ramsey). No BEK? 😢 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, St1pe said: I think that’s a bare minimum of what could be acceptable. Calling it good is what I disagreed with. It was labelled a transformative window before hand - fast movements. We’ve publicly missed out on major targets and made ourselves look like mugs. Then obviously the Isak saga. Calling it a good window is coping. That’s what I disagreed with. We might end up salvaging something and credit to the club for that but no one in their right mind so calling it good. Who labelled it transformative? Don’t recall anyone from the club stating that? Isak saga aside it’s went pretty much as I expected so far with a bit more to come. We moved first for every target so can’t move any quicker. I think the only ones looking like mugs are the fans with unrealistic and misguided expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 I was expecting a first team RW and a CB who’s ready to step in soon. And a replacement for Wilson Everything else I expected to be squad boosting. TBH I was very surprised when we went for all the big name strikers but I guess we can assume they were Isak replacements or at least replacements for when he leaves next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 7 minutes ago, LFEE said: Who labelled it transformative? Don’t recall anyone from the club stating that? Isak saga aside it’s went pretty much as I expected so far with a bit more to come. We moved first for every target so can’t move any quicker. I think the only ones looking like mugs are the fans with unrealistic and misguided expectations. Come on man. It’s important to stay positive but a spade has got to be called a spade sometimes. “Transformative” was what was briefed and coming out of the local journalists pre-window. “only ones looking like mugs are the fans with unrealistic and misguided expectations” is a pretty shit dig when the club moved so slowly in the early stage of the window and then got gazumped publicly target after target. It was incredibly damaging from a PR perspective and certainly leads to questions about the project that need answering. Absolutely none of that is the fans fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 (edited) 32 minutes ago, St1pe said: Come on man. It’s important to stay positive but a spade has got to be called a spade sometimes. “Transformative” was what was briefed and coming out of the local journalists pre-window. “only ones looking like mugs are the fans with unrealistic and misguided expectations” is a pretty shit dig when the club moved so slowly in the early stage of the window and then got gazumped publicly target after target. It was incredibly damaging from a PR perspective and certainly leads to questions about the project that need answering. Absolutely none of that is the fans fault. I never saw these briefings. All I took from transformative of any sort was the ability to sign some players eventually after having 2-3 windows where we’d maxed out the PSR. I’ve repeated this many a time that I’m at a point of boring myself. We were never going to sign 4x £60-80m players and 4x squad signings. NEVER. I predicted we’d keep Isak (pre bombshell and still expect us to but for differing reasons) and we’d sign 3x £40-50m players if no outgoings. RW… RCB… Versatile Forward to replace Wilson but ability to play also wide or in the hole. As it stands we’ve got our first choice RW. Second choice RCB (we probably had another enquiry about Guehi situation) and we are looking like (no guarantees) getting our 5th choice versatile forward (Wissa) despite moving quickly to TRY and sign Delap…Pedro…Ekitike…Sesko and losing out on all due to no fault of our own. Absolutely nothing we could’ve of done differently would’ve give us a different outcome due to our budget restrictions and wage structure and overall standing currently as a club. Anything else was based on outgoings and filling the squad. I.E Ramsey potentially replacing Longstaff and Ramsdale replacing Dubs etc. The one transformative signing would’ve been having two quality strikers which we would’ve bedded in expecting to sell Isak possibly 12 months later if we didn’t make UCL consecutively. Isak throwing a spanner in the works is no fault of the clubs. The fault in the fans is not being able to understand any of the above and continue to live in some dream world full of blame culture. The next 2 1/2wks is going to be exciting. Try and enjoy it. Will do you some good 👍🏻 Edited August 13, 2025 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 Our main problem last season was breaking down low blocks but mainly fatigue and not able to press as much as we would like as we had no depth. We are adding depth. Elanga is an upgrade but the rest means when he rotates or there is an injury there is less of a drop off. Obviously Isak is a massive issue but if we get Wissa and he does score the same he did last season then it's not that big of a problem. We need 2 strikers though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Nobody said it was a statement when we signed Botman, Bruno or Tonali and others, and they’re all absolutely mint. We shouldn’t be caring about statements. Also our biggest weakness was how shit our squad was. Before the traitor struck obviously. Tonali was seen as a big statement signing at the time to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 Assuming we get all the players we’re supposedly getting and sort out the Isak situation, the degree to which our squad is upgraded will be pretty transformative imo. For the first time since the takeover, we might have the depth of an actual top six team, instead of having to keep everything together with duct tape and crazy glue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 It creates huge competition, still don't see Isak staying but if he did and sorted his head out with the signings we have made/will make we will be strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 Any news on when @JT24’s podcast “Howe did it happen?” lands? Looking forward to hearing the ins and outs of Andy’s tumultuous transfer window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 50 minutes ago, oldtype said: Assuming we get all the players we’re supposedly getting and sort out the Isak situation, the degree to which our squad is upgraded will be pretty transformative imo. For the first time since the takeover, we might have the depth of an actual top six team, instead of having to keep everything together with duct tape and crazy glue. I agree a fully stocked bench with like for like replacements of sufficient quality (not 3 goalkeepers) will give us so much more in terms of flexibility and game/player management. Colour me cautiously optimistic (caveat - depends if Isak either fully commits or is sold and adequately replaced) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 55 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Our main problem last season was breaking down low blocks but mainly fatigue and not able to press as much as we would like as we had no depth. We are adding depth. Elanga is an upgrade but the rest means when he rotates or there is an injury there is less of a drop off. Obviously Isak is a massive issue but if we get Wissa and he does score the same he did last season then it's not that big of a problem. We need 2 strikers though I don't think it was. We smashed the bottom 6 teams home and away looking at the h2h table From memory, we struggled against the likes of Bournemouth, Fulham, Brighton etc, those 8th-12th placed teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 I more than ever want us to fuck PSR off and do what we want. 2 fingers up at the lot of them and hold everything up.on court for years like Man City will do. Top lawyers, argue we have the means financially and cash flow to do what the fuck we want and rush the lot of the cunts. UEFA will fine us, ok fine we will pay. Premier League want to dock us points, let's delay that for seasons or let's just blast PSR open. Not a legal man so know idea of implications but the whole system is rigged and im sure ways round it for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 3 hours ago, teohgk said: While i'm very much love to keep him and see him rot in our reserve team , it's not a wise business decision to do so. Most importantly , he's still friend with a lot of our players, which he'll have every chance to disrupt the harmony of our squad , just not worth it keeping him to prove a point even if it'll mean we sell him for less to Liverscumpool Best thing to do it's just move on , keep improving and become a club that no one can bully anymore imo Nope, this move would make us look weak at a time when we should be showing strength and togetherness. He may say that he won't play for us again but he'll soon change his mind when he realises that he is not getting his own way, and when any critic/pundit with a brain is constantly speaking out about his childish behaviour and disrespectful attitude towards the club that put him on the map. It's not as if hes nearing the end of his contract, he's got 3 years left and I'm sure the club will agree to letting him leave next summer if he stops being a silly boy. He's dug himself into a very deep hole which he won't get out of, UNLESS, he releases a frank apology to the fans, his teammates and the club. Then he can carry on scoring goals. Our owner wont give in to him, he's a proud man that won't suffer fools gladly or take Liverpool's pish, so he's stuck here. His legendary status is gone,that's a given,but we can tolerate him for a final season as long as he keeps scoring goals. He better not dare ever kiss the badge again though, but I doubt he would anyway. Saying that, he certainly comes across as being stupid enough to try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Live a little, get them both. If the feeling is Willock is off, then we should get both and aim to move Willock on in January for £15m+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: Tonali was seen as a big statement signing at the time to be fair. Yea, that was a signing after getting UCL that gave the feeling “Yea, they’re not messing about. They’re going for top tier and getting them”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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