TheBrownBottle Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Displayname said: He probably wants a contract somewhere after this one ends, going to be hard to get it being stuck here without any playtime. He’s on £42k per week for another two years. He’s unlikely to earn that elsewhere - he doesn’t strike me as someone arsed about playtime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) So realistically, wha is the punishment for a breach of FFP? Has anyone been punished yet (genuine question, i dont know)? The media keep pedalling the FFP line regarding our spending. probably driven by us, but maybe in private we are prepared to push the boundaries (without going Chel$ea mad) and then challenge any consequence? Edited August 15, 2023 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s on £42k per week for another two years. He’s unlikely to earn that elsewhere - he doesn’t strike me as someone arsed about playtime. Fraser is on £70k per week I read. It’s Hayden that’s on 42-50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 What did Fraser ever do to justify that kind of wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, Manxst said: Fraser is on £70k per week I read. It’s Hayden that’s on 42-50. Fuck me that’s even worse - I’ve got them mixed up then He’s going nowhere fast, then … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, TK-421 said: So realistically, wha is the punishment for a breach of FFP? Has anyone been punished yet (genuine question, i dont know)? The media keep pedalling the FFP line regarding our spending. probably driven by us, but maybe in private we are prepared to push the boundaries (without going Chel$ea mad) and then challenge any consequence? In terms of Europe, a ban from UEFA competitions. Domestic - fines, transfer embargos, points deductions, relegation … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, TK-421 said: So realistically, wha is the punishment for a breach of FFP? Has anyone been punished yet (genuine question, i dont know)? The media keep pedalling the FFP line regarding our spending. probably driven by us, but maybe in private we are prepared to push the boundaries (without going Chel$ea mad) and then challenge any consequence? £25k fine if Chelsea or another sky six club breaks it. 30 point deduction if NUFC break it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, TK-421 said: So realistically, wha is the punishment for a breach of FFP? Has anyone been punished yet (genuine question, i dont know)? The media keep pedalling the FFP line regarding our spending. probably driven by us, but maybe in private we are prepared to push the boundaries (without going Chel$ea mad) and then challenge any consequence? I imagine it depends on which club gets found guilty of it ,If say Man United or Liverpool were found guilty of it they would probably just get a fine . If we did it they would probably throw us out the league . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, TK-421 said: So realistically, wha is the punishment for a breach of FFP? Has anyone been punished yet (genuine question, i dont know)? The media keep pedalling the FFP line regarding our spending. probably driven by us, but maybe in private we are prepared to push the boundaries (without going Chel$ea mad) and then challenge any consequence? I wonder this a lot but I can’t be bothered to research it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Fuck me that’s even worse - I’ve got them mixed up then He’s going nowhere fast, then … It's why he's been frozen out from training with the first team. At least Hayden was prepared to move in order to get playing time, unfortunately he's a crock these days so there's less interest. Fraser is semi-retired at this point, he'll continue to collect his wages then fuck off back to Scotland and probably buy a pub or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 We already have a target on our backs, we’d be foolish to breach the rules because you know they’d throw the kitchen sink at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 If we do get a leftback I think chelsea maybe the seller with there spending going off the charts. Arsenal have lost timber so they may be wanting to keep him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Lewis Hall seems another opportunistic signing for the window, similar to Livramento. Guessing we’re hoping Chelsea need a sale for FFP purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 So chelsea have Chilwell maatsen cucurella and hall for leftback. Surely they'll part with cucurella or hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, Ben said: Lewis Hall £30 million straight cash deal, sorted. Don’t think we have the FFP room for that deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, andycap said: So chelsea have Chilwell maatsen cucurella and hall for leftback. Surely they'll part with cucurella or hall. Wouldn’t surprise me if they tried to not sell Any of them. I think Maatsen is pushed into midfield. They would love to shift Cucu but they realise the loss that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s on £42k per week for another two years. He’s unlikely to earn that elsewhere - he doesn’t strike me as someone arsed about playtime. A deal would probably have to include us subsidizing a part of his wages. Would also thing he would agree to some sort of paycut for the chance to get playtime and extending his career. How much i dont know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 My friends told me that the FFP requirement under EPL and UEFA are different. Chelsea may have breached the FFP under UEFA but that has no impact on them this season since they don’t have Euro competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Also. isn't the maximum 5 year contract/amortization rule from UEFA only? Not the PL? Which means that Chelsea can still gain an advantage when it comes to handing out 8 year long contracts. I could be very wrong here mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Are the Hall rumbles real? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, Ikon said: Also. isn't the maximum 5 year contract/amortization rule from UEFA only? Not the PL? Which means that Chelsea can still gain an advantage when it comes to handing out 8 year long contracts. I could be very wrong here mind. Yea that’s one of the difference mentioned by my friend. That’s why Chelsea still handling out 8 years contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ikon said: Also. isn't the maximum 5 year contract/amortization rule from UEFA only? Not the PL? Which means that Chelsea can still gain an advantage when it comes to handing out 8 year long contracts. I could be very wrong here mind. That’s right, the PL are bringing in the same rule next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 year contracts are mental in any case and am glad it isn’t catching on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: 8 year contracts are mental in any case and am glad it isn’t catching on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: 8 year contracts are mental in any case and am glad it isn’t catching on. It will all end in tears, give it a couple of years. It will be like spending thousands on your credit card but only paying the min payment. But maxing out 20 cards then your min payments add up to more than you’re earning for ffp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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