PauloGeordio Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Don’t fancy a chocolate with your coffee Johnny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Don’t fancy a chocolate with your coffee Johnny? Personally I wouldn’t lower the tone in here by talking ‘confectionary’. Also, you can stick your chocolate up your arse I only ever eat these with my freshly brewed tankard. Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I prefer to go for Hall as we should be able to wrap up the deal much faster than Tierney. Arsenal would have to find a replacement first since Timber is done and they will be light in left back if they let Tierney go as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 He’s been a first team regular for most of his career in a 38 league season and managed over 30 league appearances once. 1 hour ago, Mountain said: I've looked though his appearance stats and they look fine, I was shocked. Fine, sort the loan. Knowing our luck he'll be incredible, seems to be an everything we touch turns to gold theme these days so who am I to judge. It's so weird when the higher ups know better than the average fan, I hope it stays like this forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zero said: I prefer to go for Hall as we should be able to wrap up the deal much faster than Tierney. Arsenal would have to find a replacement first since Timber is done and they will be light in left back if they let Tierney go as well I would take Hall out of the 3. He’s young looked good when I’ve seen him. Think his injury record is good, and will be developed well. Edited August 16, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Tierney for me is a short term option, he's 26 now and has had injury issues for a few seasons. He'd be ideal on a season long loan with an option to buy for £25M. Then we can decide come May how he's performed and if his injuries have resurfaced or not. Cucerella I think is a better option over the long term but still you'd ideally want a loan rather than a permanent move right now but I'd be more inclined to see an obligation to buy at the end of the season for him. He's got a much better track record at actually being available for games than Tierney so you'd trust him to stay fit for 90% of the season. Hall makes alot of sense and would've been perfect if we could've got him in right at the start of the window before his new contract was signed. He's obviously got way less experience than the other two so perhaps couldn't make the impact this season that we'd need him to. I'd be happy to see us get him permanently now rather than a loan but a loan with an obligation to buy would be alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Any of the 3 would be good. Hall, Cucerella then Tierney. Still think we’ll do a surprise transfer in before the window ends. Eddie said 1 or 2 elites pre season. Sandro is 1, Harvey is a great addition not sure if elite. I’m greedy and want to believe in-spite of all the FFP talk there’s room for some arrangement to get a statement signing before the window slams shut! still been a great window as it is. But 1 more plus a “there you fucking go” to seal it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Any of the 3 would be good. Hall, Cucerella then Tierney. Still think we’ll do a surprise transfer in before the window ends. Eddie said 1 or 2 elites pre season. Sandro is 1, Harvey is a great addition not sure if elite. I’m greedy and want to believe in-spite of all the FFP talk there’s room for some arrangement to get a statement signing before the window slams shut! still been a great window as it is. But 1 more plus a “there you fucking go” to seal it! Not so sure Paulo. This guy seems tailor made for Tonali's quick passes and Eddies high press and quick attack. I'm impressed with what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, McDog said: Not so sure Paulo. This guy seems tailor made for Tonali's quick passes and Eddies high press and quick attack. I'm impressed with what I've seen. I agree. I always wanted Harvey over Maddison (the whole package of ability and character fit) Think I’m just doing the mental gymnastics to hope for another quality surprise addition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Piece up on the athletic analysing potential left back signings. Hall, Cucu Tierney and Miranda all analysed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Piece up on the athletic analysing potential left back signings. Hall, Cucu Tierney and Miranda all analysed. Summary analysis: This is not a perfect market. Cucurella and Tierney may be more available, but both have flaws in their game which mean they are not ideal solutions. The youth and potential of Miranda and Hall is enticing — but Hall appears off limits, while Miranda would require a significant financial outlay, or extremely creative accounting. These are the problems created by Newcastle’s rapid rise. Whereas they may previously have been able to let the market develop over multiple windows, their ascent to European football ahead of schedule means they need to build depth rapidly. It means players may not always fit — and Howe and director of football Dan Ashworth have always been insistent that they need to be certain they have the right player coming in. In Burn and Targett — and even with Trippier in a pinch — Newcastle have options. However, if they are to unlock their full left-sided potential, they might just have to exhibit patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 What about Frimpong from Leverkusen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1691582983755465041?s=46&t=El8GynjsImMyo-gea2gO0A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, NSG said: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1691582983755465041?s=46&t=El8GynjsImMyo-gea2gO0A My preferred LB out of the named options. Bring him home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Looking at those stats that The Athletic distributed it would seem if Howe wants to bring an elite LB in then he might have to look elsewhere or wait till next summer. Miranda would be the pick of those 4 going purely on those stats because he'd offer similar to Burn defensively but WAY more than Burn in attacking areas. But ofcourse who's knows what the hell he'd actually cost and how he'd adapt to a new country and a new team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NSG said: https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1691582983755465041?s=46&t=El8GynjsImMyo-gea2gO0A Much prefer not to be a development club for them bastards though, they can get fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Miranda only £8m / €10 as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Miranda only £8m / €10 as well Ooh. That might give us the flex on a RCB. 5 year deal is less than £2m amortisation a season plus whatever wages he’d be on. Basically could be offset getting Ryan Fraser’s wages off the book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Not seen a lot of Lewis Hall, but he does impress. However, I can't see Chelsea letting him go on a permanent transfer, and a season long loan might not work for us. We really need someone to step into the first team now, and it's asking a lot of an 18 year old at a new club and a new city to do that, whatever the talent. It's probably easier to take that sort of risk with an attacker than a defender. So all we might end up doing is giving him some good coaching which Chelsea would then benefit from. Tierney seems the obvious front-runner for me. He's experienced, motivated to come here (I'm pretty sure) and would slot in right away. It wasn't that long ago that people were talking about him and Robertson as the best two left backs in Europe. Whether Arsenal would accept the kind of deferred payments that we're talking about is a big hurdle though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Miranda only £8m / €10 as well If that's true and we do actually want him then I don't see why we haven't done it already. A quick Google find that's Barcelona have first refusal to sign him and they have a 40% sell on with him so perhaps not quite that straight forward to get done. His squad number at Real Betis is #33. Seems like it's meant to be if he's going to be Burns replacement. Edited August 16, 2023 by Mazzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Thought Hall hadn't signed that new contract yet? Lots of mixed reports with some saying he has and others saying he hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Summary analysis: This is not a perfect market. Cucurella and Tierney may be more available, but both have flaws in their game which mean they are not ideal solutions. The youth and potential of Miranda and Hall is enticing — but Hall appears off limits, while Miranda would require a significant financial outlay, or extremely creative accounting. These are the problems created by Newcastle’s rapid rise. Whereas they may previously have been able to let the market develop over multiple windows, their ascent to European football ahead of schedule means they need to build depth rapidly. It means players may not always fit — and Howe and director of football Dan Ashworth have always been insistent that they need to be certain they have the right player coming in. In Burn and Targett — and even with Trippier in a pinch — Newcastle have options. However, if they are to unlock their full left-sided potential, they might just have to exhibit patience. Tierney seems the most well-rounded, but Hall can surpass him. Edited August 16, 2023 by catlover24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 For the profile of players we are signing and the fact Chelsea effectively have 3 left backs to replace him, I can see Hall coming here. Like the Barnes transfer it just makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, Mazzy said: Looking at those stats that The Athletic distributed it would seem if Howe wants to bring an elite LB in then he might have to look elsewhere or wait till next summer. Think that's where we are at now like No more burn/targett type of signings (no disrespect to either) Just going to the top of our lists and will hold off if needs be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Given he regularly covers centre back, Hincapie would be a good option. Leverkusen aren't going to sell cheap though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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