TRC Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, Virtua Stiva said: Not sure a creative midfielder would be much help when no cunt is making a run in behind It’s almost as if it’s the entire system that’s the issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Increasingly clear we need a striker with physical presence. Especially if we let Osula leave. Another 1-2 defenders and someone with creativity in midfield. I think we will get a defender. Not expecting anything else. Feel they wont want to negatively affect Wolte and Wissa by getting another striker. We need one though. Wolte can play as a false 9 or AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Wish we could sell a hotel or women's team to mitigate last summers poor business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Virtua Stiva said: Not sure a creative midfielder would be much help when no cunt is making a run in behind Adding players in attack is futile when Howe has said himself he's not getting time to coach the patterns and relationships he'd like to. As fans all we can do is to show our displeasure and continue to hassle the new lads wherever possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, black_n_white said: We have players who have cost 150 million sat on the bench today mind. Their price tag says one thing but their performances say another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, toontownman said: Increasingly clear we need a striker with physical presence. Especially if we let Osula leave. Another 1-2 defenders and someone with creativity in midfield. I think we will get a defender. Not expecting anything else. Feel they wont want to negatively affect Wolte and Wissa by getting another striker. We need one though. Wolte can play as a false 9 or AM. JSL (or somebody similar) with a change of formation. Playing big Nick as an AM or number 10 with 2 strikers competing for the no 9 slot. Goals a plenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, MagPar said: JSL (or somebody similar) with a change of formation. Playing big Nick as an AM or number 10 with 2 strikers competing for the no 9 slot. Goals a plenty. I'm not convinced another big target man is the right fit for us under Eddie. We need another Isak/Ekitike type... where we can find one mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 39 minutes ago, toontownman said: Increasingly clear we need a striker with physical presence. Especially if we let Osula leave. Another 1-2 defenders and someone with creativity in midfield. I think we will get a defender. Not expecting anything else. Feel they wont want to negatively affect Wolte and Wissa by getting another striker. We need one though. Wolte can play as a false 9 or AM. Did Isak have a physical presence ? We just need a no.9. A 27yr old Wilson, a Solanke, a Watkins. There's still time for Wissa but...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 18 minutes ago, janpawel said: Wish we could sell a hotel or women's team to mitigate last summers poor business Or get a sponsorship deal for the training ground and kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) It's the front 3 that need focusing on. 3 of our 4 wingers aren't producing but that's also symptomatic of having forwards who either aren't finishing or getting on the end of chances that are being created. Our defence is depleted but performing well, our midfield doesnt look as balanced as it once was, but is still holding it's own although could possibly do with a touch of guile and creativity. It's our front 3 which don't look incisive or dynamic in any sense of the word - it's not like theyre starved of possession either. That's a +£250m problem to fix. Edited January 18 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: It's the front 3 that need focusing on. 3 of our 4 wingers aren't producing but that's also symptomatic of having forwards who either aren't finishing or getting on the end of chances that are being created. Our defence is depleted but performing well, our midfield doesnt look as balanced as it once was, but is still holding it's own, could possibly do with a touch of guile and creativity. It's our front 3 which don't look incisive or dynamic in any sense of the word - it's not like theyre starved of possession either. That's a +£250m problem to fix. Agree on the wingers, bar Barnes they just aren’t producing enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 49 minutes ago, madras said: Did Isak have a physical presence ? We just need a no.9. A 27yr old Wilson, a Solanke, a Watkins. There's still time for Wissa but...... Most teams weren't sussing us out with a low block when he was most successful for us. He wasn't great when teams did. We need someone with physical presence imo. A striker pool of two isnt enough without that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, toontownman said: Most teams weren't sussing us out with a low block when he was most successful for us. He wasn't great when teams did. We need someone with physical presence imo. A striker pool of two isnt enough without that. I think people forget how many games Isak was isolated and not in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: I think people forget how many games Isak was isolated and not in the game. His brilliance covered up a lot of the deficiencies in team and system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Agreed. Isak carried Howe and the rest of the lads, as demonstrated by the way he's absolutely blown the doors off at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Agreed. Isak carried Howe and the rest of the lads, as demonstrated by the way he's absolutely blown the doors off at Liverpool. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, The Prophet said: Agreed. Isak carried Howe and the rest of the lads, as demonstrated by the way he's absolutely blown the doors off at Liverpool. This has nothing to do with Liverpool Isak. No need for the sarcasm. Sure he had many good games aswell, but there were issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Thumbheed said: It's the front 3 that need focusing on. 3 of our 4 wingers aren't producing but that's also symptomatic of having forwards who either aren't finishing or getting on the end of chances that are being created. Our defence is depleted but performing well, our midfield doesnt look as balanced as it once was, but is still holding it's own although could possibly do with a touch of guile and creativity. It's our front 3 which don't look incisive or dynamic in any sense of the word - it's not like theyre starved of possession either. That's a +£250m problem to fix. Those wingers produced last season and have you seen some of the balls Murphys put in this season..... the forward reading them is whats missing. Its not our defence as much as our defending throughout the team.....though thats getting stretched now as games go on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Agreed. Isak carried Howe and the rest of the lads, as demonstrated by the way he's absolutely blown the doors off at Liverpool. Isak was in the argument for best striker in the world it’s a huge gap to fill. Sometimes a player is that special it elevates a team to be greater than the sum of its parts. A lot of his goals were half chances and moments he created himself. We’ve got some great players, but we don’t create and he compensated for that massively. Edited January 18 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, nufc123 said: This has nothing to do with Liverpool Isak. No need for the sarcasm. Sure he had many good games aswell, but there were issues. The suggestion the team was built to service Isak and he subsequently became a better penalty box striker as a result of that, along with Howe's coaching is completely baseless. He simply papered over the cracks. Woltamade isn't papering over those same cracks and so shouldn't be afforded that benefit. If he can't be shoehorned into number ten, he should be sold immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: He simply papered over the cracks. He didnt just "papered over the cracks", but there were issues. Plenty of evidence in the Isak thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, madras said: Those wingers produced last season and have you seen some of the balls Murphys put in this season..... the forward reading them is whats missing. Its not our defence as much as our defending throughout the team.....though thats getting stretched now as games go on. Agreed with that, that's why I say it's symptomatic of our forwards not getting on the end of chances, but to add to that, none of them barring Barnes is scoring goals and both him and Muprhy were supposed to be our options off the bench. We shouldnt really been 4 years into our project citing Murphy's crossing as an example of where things are going right and no matter how good they chances are that are being created, theyre not scoring either and no top team can be successful without their forward players all contributing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A reliable South American journalist reckons we’re moving for Rayan, Brazilian kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, lovejoy said: A reliable South American journalist reckons we’re moving for Rayan, Brazilian kid. Is that the lad Bournemouth are after? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lovejoy said: A reliable South American journalist reckons we’re moving for Rayan, Brazilian kid. This? https://x.com/pedrosa/status/2012941547600240869 Vasco rejected a 31 million euro proposal from Zenit without even opening negotiations because it counts on the jewel for 2025. But with Rayan's wishes now made clear, it is already open to hearing offers from other markets as well. Clubs from Saudi Arabia have made contacts, and another English team has signaled that it may make an official proposal soon: Newcastle. Edited January 18 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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