Mikky Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: KDB, Beckham, Trent - all did the same. It’s the strikers job to get on the end of them. He’s Xa is still double his actual assists I think meaning players are getting on the end and missing. And the 3 you mentioned offer way more than simply cross the ball - it’s the ability to pass, vision, read play etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I can't recall KDB slinging in many hopeful crosses from wide right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, Mikky said: Top level as in PL? I highly doubt it unless Norwich come up and he makes the nostalgic move there Remember how Longstaff was the solution to our midfield balance? He’s nowhere near the Leeds XI now - once you’ve extracted every ounce from players like these - they are only going one way, because in large parts they are limited Yeah PL. He'll be a squad player for a bottom 10 club with his experience and versatility. Brighton stuff their squad with experience like this - Dunk, Milner, Gross, Welbeck and they contribute. In this current day climate, Murphy's a leader and we're going to need that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Surely we keep Murphy around for the time being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: KDB, Beckham, Trent - all did the same. It’s the strikers job to get on the end of them. He’s Xa is still double his actual assists I think meaning players are getting on the end and missing. His crossing is top class, not much argument there. It's just when he has to carry the ball more than 5 yards that he becomes a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Most of us criticise Howe for being too loyal to players and the club not being good sellers. Then once someone correctly says cash in on Murphy this season, the forum has dozens of posts why we should keep him. I love Murphy but if anyone offers £15m I'd snap their hand off. Maybe even £10m-£12m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I mean Howe is definitely not too loyal to Murphy, we already tried to replace him with Elanga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, 500bhp said: Most of us criticise Howe for being too loyal to players and the club not being good sellers. Then once someone correctly says cash in on Murphy this season, the forum has dozens of posts why we should keep him. I love Murphy but if anyone offers £15m I'd snap their hand off. Maybe even £10m-£12m. We'd get next nothing for him though. In a summer where Trippier, Schar and maybe even Pope leave. I dare say his presence, leadership and actual love of the club will be needed behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, 500bhp said: Most of us criticise Howe for being too loyal to players and the club not being good sellers. Then once someone correctly says cash in on Murphy this season, the forum has dozens of posts why we should keep him. I love Murphy but if anyone offers £15m I'd snap their hand off. Maybe even £10m-£12m. How many 31 year olds do you know being sold for 10-15m? The game's changing and players like Murphy will stand out as they have a level of technique these newer players don't. Who'd have seen Danny Welbeck having 12 goals in 2026? He couldn't get 12 goals in 2016. But his experience and know how put him in scoring positions in this new age of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Astroblack said: How many 31 year olds do you know being sold for 10-15m? The game's changing and players like Murphy will stand out as they have a level of technique these newer players don't. Who'd have seen Danny Welbeck having 12 goals in 2026? He couldn't get 12 goals in 2016. But his experience and know how put him in scoring positions in this new age of football. For every Welbeck there's a Wissa or Wilson. I think he is the exception. In my view we need a full reset this summer and to shift loads of players. I'm OK with losing likes of Murphy, Pope, Trippier, Burn/Schar, Willock, Osula, even Joelinton if Tonali stays. Tino as he he wants away it seems. But others may be happy to keep 80%-90% of the squad. I'm not, I'm still pissed off from Sunday and from losing 4 of last 5 home games. And dropping 22 points from winning positions. This team peaked on that amazing day on 16th March 2025 and we need to clear the decks for the next reincarnation of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Joe1984 said: Not like we have a giant we could get in the box, who also happens to be an attack minded player. If only we did... 😄 Who much like our similarly sized defender, isn’t actually great at attacking headers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, 500bhp said: For every Welbeck there's a Wissa or Wilson. I think he is the exception. In my view we need a full reset this summer and to shift loads of players. I'm OK with losing likes of Murphy, Pope, Trippier, Burn/Schar, Willock, Osula, even Joelinton if Tonali stays. Tino as he he wants away it seems. But others may be happy to keep 80%-90% of the squad. I'm not, I'm still pissed off from Sunday and from losing 4 of last 5 home games. And dropping 22 points from winning positions. This team peaked on that amazing day on 16th March 2025 and we need to clear the decks for the next reincarnation of the team. I see what you're saying. Do a Chelsea. Sell all the experience. Working well for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Astroblack said: I see what you're saying. Do a Chelsea. Sell all the experience. Working well for them... Look, we aren't going to agree on this. You want a back line of Pope, Trippier, Schar, Burn, Hall next season. I want young hungry players with pace whose career is ahead of them and can be improved with coaching from Howe, or his replacement if he goes. I'd keep either Burn or Schar. We have different views on the way forward, its a forum. That's what its all about. I have Chelsea but they are World Club champions which earned them £100m last summer and they will be in Europe next season, maybe CL. Plus, they have fucking brilliant accountants 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 55 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Surely we keep Murphy around for the time being? I think he’s that type of character that Howe will want to stick around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Murphy would be an unbelievable backup RWB in the alternative universe where we have a go at playing 3-5-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 37 minutes ago, Nine said: I think he’s that type of character that Howe will want to stick around Aren't they all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, 500bhp said: Most of us criticise Howe for being too loyal to players and the club not being good sellers. Then once someone correctly says cash in on Murphy this season, the forum has dozens of posts why we should keep him. I love Murphy but if anyone offers £15m I'd snap their hand off. Maybe even £10m-£12m. Indeed. Think the fans are just as bad when it's a player they are fond of. I can't fathom why we'd hold on to Murphy past this summer. He's now 31 and going into the last year of his contract. Got a nice cross in the final third, but other than that there's nothing else really. If we can't find a better player to bring in to be more of a challenge and possibly even force Elanga into more of a secondary option then the club is in big trouble. Edited March 27 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Magpie Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 My completely uninformed, based on nothing guess as to who of note will be out. Willock, Trippier, Schar, Livramento, Tonali, Gordon, Murphy, Osula, Pope. Burn will be back, the team will look for younger players, and hope Eddie knows how to develop young talent. Our academy is a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Last time I'll post this, promise. But if we let 3 star players go we are fucked. Completely the wrong strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Last time I'll post this, promise. But if we let 3 star players go we are fucked. Completely the wrong strategy. If three star players go then it means we won’t have had a choice. We won’t be actively trying to flog them, clubs will come for them and the players will decide they’re off. It’s not about what we want, it’s just a real possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Kimbo said: If three star players go then it means we won’t have had a choice. We won’t be actively trying to flog them, clubs will come for them and the players will decide they’re off. It’s not about what we want, it’s just a real possibility. We can't possibly sanction the exit of 3 key players. I know the player power argument but we'll have to just explain the best we can that they are under contract and we need them to contribute to next season. That's what they all signed up for and almost nobody can say they really performed this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We can't possibly sanction the exit of 3 key players. I know the player power argument but we'll have to just explain the best we can that they are under contract and we need them to contribute to next season. That's what they all signed up for and almost nobody can say they really performed this year. I agree with you FWIW, but it will be interesting to see how that plays out when the rubber meets the road. There's still 7 games left, if we have a barnstorming finish to the season it might settle a few with wandering eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We can't possibly sanction the exit of 3 key players. I know the player power argument but we'll have to just explain the best we can that they are under contract and we need them to contribute to next season. That's what they all signed up for and almost nobody can say they really performed this year. Aye, would be a terrible look, even worse if they all go to another premier league club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 33 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Last time I'll post this, promise. But if we let 3 star players go we are fucked. Completely the wrong strategy. Agreed. You just become a Brentford/Brighton then. Capable of good seasons but everyone knows their best performers each season move onto better things. No matter how much of a 'big club' we'd think we are, you sell your best players every summer and you're in that mid table sellers club league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Paul Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Would we ever look at Troy Parrott I wonder? Think he'd be a very good upgrade on any of our 3 strikers and wouldn't cost huge money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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