Tino Livramento

[James]

We have to sell our purples sometime, the key is to sell the right purple at the right time.

 

id be happy to get a good price and sell him if it meant a significant growth in squad reinvestment.

 

prefer to lose Gordon, but would rather keep Tonali, Bruno, Isak

[relámpago blanco]

1 hour ago, HayDen Traces said:

I think they're both brilliant tbf

They are I don't want to lose either. I think Hall has a higher ceiling though. I'm just saying Tino has looked better at left back which is odd. His contributions in the final third are alot lower. If we were to lose one it would have to be Tino.

[Ronson333]

56 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

They are I don't want to lose either. I think Hall has a higher ceiling though. I'm just saying Tino has looked better at left back which is odd. His contributions in the final third are alot lower. If we were to lose one it would have to be Tino.

Tino is a much better defender than Hall, he’s also got pace which Hall will never have. If we’re talking about better on the ball, Hall wins hands down, but always worry about him when he’s up against a pacy winger. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Tino is probably the best one on one defensive fullback in the league. Definitely don’t want to sell, but I don’t really want to sell anyone except the shit lads. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

I'd be devastated if we sold Tino this summer like.

[KaKa]

17 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Tino is a much better defender than Hall, he’s also got pace which Hall will never have. If we’re talking about better on the ball, Hall wins hands down, but always worry about him when he’s up against a pacy winger. 

 

Yeah, they're both excellent young full backs in different ways.

 

Always been more of a Tino guy, because I love his ability to just shut down opposing wingers, which is so easy to overlook.

 

Also think we haven't seen his full potential unlocked going forward down that right side, because of the players we've used ahead of him on the wing, as they don't combine well with an overlapping full back.

[Optimistic Nut]

He's brilliant going forward. Has that ability of being able to carry the ball half the length the pitch and give it to a team mate. Massive quality to have .

[nemtizz]

Still has to improve his final ball but everything else about his game is near enough perfect.

 

It is strange how he's noticeably better on the left, though.

[Maggies]

2 minutes ago, nemtizz said:

Still has to improve his final ball but everything else about his game is near enough perfect.

 

It is strange how he's noticeably better on the left, though.

Agreed - it’s very noticeable he’s better on the left. Was it because he only had Murphy in front of him on the right?! Not sure.

 

Regardless - if he stays, brilliant. If he leaves for a lot of money, then we have Hall at left back and can get a cheap enough right defender. It’s one of the easiest positions to replace.

[Ben]

1 hour ago, James said:

We have to sell our purples sometime, the key is to sell the right purple at the right time.

 

id be happy to get a good price and sell him if it meant a significant growth in squad reinvestment.

 

prefer to lose Gordon, but would rather keep Tonali, Bruno, Isak

 

I 1000% disagree with you 

[Sandrotastico]

7 minutes ago, Maggies said:

Agreed - it’s very noticeable he’s better on the left. Was it because he only had Murphy in front of him on the right?! Not sure.

 

Regardless - if he stays, brilliant. If he leaves for a lot of money, then we have Hall at left back and can get a cheap enough right defender. It’s one of the easiest positions to replace.

It is? Who would you bring in?

[wormy]

1 hour ago, Ronson333 said:

Tino is a much better defender than Hall, he’s also got pace which Hall will never have. If we’re talking about better on the ball, Hall wins hands down, but always worry about him when he’s up against a pacy winger. 

 

It's what makes getting them both at the same time even more satisfying in that they compliment each other so well in their strengths and also why I don't like/see much point in comparing which is better because they're such wildly different versions of full back.

 

In time Hall could become our closest replacement to Trippier as far as contributing from deep, while Tino can be the one that focuses on staying back and supporting the CBs, with the odd foray forward when the opportunity arises. Effectively swapping the roles from when we had Trips/Burn on either side.

 

They seem naturally close on a personal level too, which can only be a good thing. Guess it makes sense when two young English lads playing the same but opposite role arrive at the same time. 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 21:49 by wormy

[Scotty66]

Tino is absolute class. The fact that he can play on the left or right and still be A FUCKING BRICK WALL is more or less irreplaceable.

If you're building a team for the future Tino is without doubt a big part of that.

[toontownman]

Yeah. I don't want to lose Tino at any cost really. We are still a year or two away from shahar coming up. He is irreplaceable.

 

Hall and Tino have us covered for a decade. I doubt they both stay that long but they cover us until we have real depth coming through the academy regularly.

[mighty__mag]

Wondering if Mitchell may have recommended Vanderson of Monaco, if we did lose Tino it would need to be a huge fee, the only other right back I rate is Munoz of Palace but he's the wrong age, and recently signed with palace until 2028

[shorty]

Would be gutted if he left like no doubt but probably easier to replace defenders as opposed to isak or tonali imo.

[duo]

4 hours ago, Sandrotastico said:

Would not sell at any price. He's class!

Irreplaceable - not a RB in the league with his versatility 

[Geordie Ahmed]

If the reports are to be believed then we don't need to sell, even if we are to have an active summer we don't need to sell 

 

So I absolutely don't want him to be sold, the price it would take that we couldn't reject is a price no one would be prepared to pay

 

There may well come a time where we need to sell a purple to allow us to go again, at that stage I'd reluctantly allow him to go but until such a time we absolutely should be looking to keep him 

[GeordieToon]

I thought Howe wanted to keep this team together. Are we just a selling club again bad move selling Livramento to one of our rivals,

[PRL]

Blows my mind that folk are obsessing over the flexibility of forward players and in next sentence think losing the most flexible defender we have is okay. 
 

I would struggle to argue selling Tino, only Isak and Tonali would be higher up the unsellables for me 

[OverThere]

Selling Tino to City would be completely nuts

 

 

Edited Saturday at 23:22 by OverThere

[TheBrownBottle]

12 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

If the reports are to be believed then we don't need to sell, even if we are to have an active summer we don't need to sell 

 

So I absolutely don't want him to be sold, the price it would take that we couldn't reject is a price no one would be prepared to pay

 

There may well come a time where we need to sell a purple to allow us to go again, at that stage I'd reluctantly allow him to go but until such a time we absolutely should be looking to keep him 

We don’t need to sell, but we won’t exactly have a bumper budget if we don’t.

[J7]

16 minutes ago, GeordieToon said:

I thought Howe wanted to keep this team together. Are we just a selling club again bad move selling Livramento to one of our rivals,

They’ve not made any secret of saying that they’d be needing to trade and sell players to keep building.

[TheBrownBottle]

All of our players are available for purchase - it’s all a question of other clubs being able to afford them.  
 

The Sky Six have always traded players amongst themselves - our income is dwarfed by theirs, so if they come in with the right money then the player is off.

 

I think Man City - if they’re interested enough - will pay what it takes.  If we get close to double what we paid, the lad is off (the £100m valuations on here notwithstanding, obviously).  The lad looks much better at LB than he does at RB, but he’s not our best LB.
 

I couldn’t give much of a shite as long as all of the money (more importantly headroom) is available for Howe to spend - which it will be.  And if the lad goes, it’s the manager’s call.

 

I’ve no idea where this idea that we don’t sell our players comes from - every club sells their players.  If we are actually going to get to where the ownership claimed, there is a real chance that none of the current squad are there when we do.  

[Shearergol]

It’s probably more that we don’t want to sell our best players.